Transylvanian/Romanian GEDmatch Results

[Nurzat]

Great job again, Ion!

Are you sure Ardelean, Maramures isn't mixed? He is 39% and no other unmixed Transilvanian in the list scores more than 30%.

all the northwestern area of Maramuresh county is Rusyn territory, Rusyn/Hutsul villages. in Sighet there's a full Ukrainian-language high-school for those Rusyns. also in Maramures it's the seat of the Union of the Ukrainians in Romania and also the seat of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Romania. my home village is in the Maramures-Bucovina Ukrainian-inhabited continuum in Romania.

as I was explaining elsewhere, the people in the villages are Ukrainian ethnics but whenever one of them moves away he voluntarily Romanianizes, sometimes not even mentioning to friends that in his home village people speak Ukrainian. so you can get these half-Ukrainian Romanians with one Ukrainian parent, and for example if the father is Romanian you will think where does he get his Baltic from, since he has Romanian last name, but it's the Ukrainian mother maybe. I've known plenty of cases in Cluj and Suceava as well like this. of course, maybe it's not the case here, but just to let you know of your Russkie brothers from the Carpathians in Romania.

at the last census Maramures county had:
"Ukrainians (including Hutsuls and other Rusyns) - 6.77% (or 31,234)"

the real number is maybe double, people usually avoid declaring themselves Ukrainian, they fear of ties with Russia or not to have legal consequences (out of ignorance and poor information from the state). it's an entirely rural area.

[Aspirin]

Great job again, Ion!

Are you sure Ardelean, Maramures isn't mixed? He is 39% and no other unmixed Transilvanian in the list scores more than 30%.

Maramures is the most Slavic admixed region in Transylvania, in which mixing has been ongoing since the Middle Ages till today.

[Daco Celtic]

all the northwestern area of Maramuresh county is Rusyn territory, Rusyn/Hutsul villages. in Sighet there's a full Ukrainian-language high-school for those Rusyns. also in Maramures it's the seat of the Union of the Ukrainians in Romania and also the seat of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Romania. my home village is in the Maramures-Bucovina Ukrainian-inhabited continuum in Romania.

as I was explaining elsewhere, the people in the villages are Ukrainian ethnics but whenever one of them moves away he voluntarily Romanianizes, sometimes not even mentioning to friends that in his home village people speak Ukrainian. so you can get these half-Ukrainian Romanians with one Ukrainian parent, and for example if the father is Romanian you will think where does he get his Baltic from, since he has Romanian last name, but it's the Ukrainian mother maybe. I've known plenty of cases in Cluj and Suceava as well like this. of course, maybe it's not the case here, but just to let you know of your Russkie brothers from the Carpathians in Romania.

at the last census Maramures county had:
"Ukrainians (including Hutsuls and other Rusyns) - 6.77% (or 31,234)"

the real number is maybe double, people usually avoid declaring themselves Ukrainian, they fear of ties with Russia or not to have legal consequences (out of ignorance and poor information from the state). it's an entirely rural area.

Which towns exactly in Maramureș? My last name came from north central Maramures in the 12th/13th century but has no ties to Ukrainians.

[Aspirin]

at the last census Maramures county had:
"Ukrainians (including Hutsuls and other Rusyns) - 6.77% (or 31,234)"

the real number is maybe double, people usually avoid declaring themselves Ukrainian, they fear of ties with Russia or not to have legal consequences (out of ignorance and poor information from the state). it's an entirely rural area.

How many will be in Suceava and Botoșani?

[Jana]

Transylvania proper Romanians seems pretty close to Wallachians, correct me if wrong?

[Ion Basescul]

Transylvania proper Romanians seems pretty close to Wallachians, correct me if wrong?

They are intermediate between Wallachians and Moldavians. Look for the averages at the bottom.

[Aspirin]

Transylvania proper Romanians seems pretty close to Wallachians, correct me if wrong?

Intermediate, I think only Southern Transylvanians are close to Wallachians, these ones from the far north (some of them) score high Baltic and low East Med, and look like Moldo/Ukro mixes from RM.

[Leto]

all the northwestern area of Maramuresh county is Rusyn territory, Rusyn/Hutsul villages. in Sighet there's a full Ukrainian-language high-school for those Rusyns. also in Maramures it's the seat of the Union of the Ukrainians in Romania and also the seat of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Romania. my home village is in the Maramures-Bucovina Ukrainian-inhabited continuum in Romania.

as I was explaining elsewhere, the people in the villages are Ukrainian ethnics but whenever one of them moves away he voluntarily Romanianizes, sometimes not even mentioning to friends that in his home village people speak Ukrainian. so you can get these half-Ukrainian Romanians with one Ukrainian parent, and for example if the father is Romanian you will think where does he get his Baltic from, since he has Romanian last name, but it's the Ukrainian mother maybe. I've known plenty of cases in Cluj and Suceava as well like this. of course, maybe it's not the case here, but just to let you know of your Russkie brothers from the Carpathians in Romania.

at the last census Maramures county had:
"Ukrainians (including Hutsuls and other Rusyns) - 6.77% (or 31,234)"

the real number is maybe double, people usually avoid declaring themselves Ukrainian, they fear of ties with Russia or not to have legal consequences (out of ignorance and poor information from the state). it's an entirely rural area.

Cool. That individual is similar to Daos who is half xoxol and 25% Polish.

[Ion Basescul]

Transylvania_proper_average,23.98,26.24,17.43,9.61 ,17.51,1.68,0.64,0.62,1.13,0.54,0.40,0.09,0.12
Moldavia_average,23.95,27.75,16.63,9.82,16.58,1.48 ,0.60,0.47,1.34,0.60,0.46,0.16,0.16
R.Moldova_average,24.02,29.09,16.48,9.92,14.66,1.8 6,0.59,0.57,1.48,0.64,0.43,0.16,0.10
Wallachia_average,22.68,24.86,17.47,11.15,18.47,2. 11,0.71,0.70,0.85,0.41,0.36,0.16,0.06

[Ion Basescul]