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  • Spain

    138 33.17%
  • Portugal

    120 28.85%
  • Britain

    17 4.09%
  • Ireland

    16 3.85%
  • France

    32 7.69%
  • Germany

    14 3.37%
  • Netherlands

    12 2.88%
  • Switzerland

    10 2.40%
  • Austria

    11 2.64%
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    152 36.54%
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    118 28.37%
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    83 19.95%
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    221 53.13%
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    252 60.58%
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    254 61.06%
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    130 31.25%
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    151 36.30%
  • Serbia, Croatia, and/or Bosnia

    95 22.84%
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    83 19.95%
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    34 8.17%
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    39 9.38%
  • Poland

    18 4.33%
  • Sweden, Norway, Denmark, or Iceland

    15 3.61%
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    12 2.88%
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    17 4.09%
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Thread: Can Iranians pass as Europeans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonmaiden View Post
    most look more like the pale sort of indians
    Does the subject of this article ring any bells in relation to what you just wrote?

    http://usa.mediamonitors.net/Headlin...n-Brown-Sahibs



    Or, like this:






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    ^ not really! i was thinking more of the beautiful, slightly european looking bollywood type!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonmaiden View Post
    ^ not really! i was thinking more of the beautiful, slightly european looking bollywood type!




    I imagine Romany, or Gypsies, would be included. Hah.

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    awhile back Dienekes made morphs of Iranian villagers, and they looked almost Indian. Clearly not European.

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    Man I love your threads. they're never boring. I'm glad something European still survives in these people, not sure why but I've always been drawn to them. some do look Europeanesque maybe those might fit in Southeastern Europe. kudos on the selection. have you got any more

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    Certainly not where I live. Recently, an Iranian family moved into my parents neighbourhood, and my mother calls them all "swarthy" (which is what they are).

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    ^ The man here has an eye shape (regardless of colour) that I've noticed is quite common among Indians and Eastern Europeans alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dario Argento View Post
    A better question would be where this man would pass; I think this is how the main European component on them looked like: A dinarized nordid:



    I say Ukraine or Russia, although he wouldn't be that common there.
    He looks mainly Dinaric or Armenoid with some Nordid.

    He reminds me of this Armenian soldier from Karabakh (on the right):



    Quote Originally Posted by safety pin View Post
    Can Iranians pass as Europeans?
    Depends if they inherited the 10% or so north European phenotypic genes they carry. Otherwise they look mostly West Asian + minor Arab and South Asian.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dario Argento View Post
    But I can say their main European component looked like Moldovans, Ukrainians, South Russians, or something like that.
    Their main European component is Baltic-like IMO. On Polako's Eurogenes project one Kazakh member has 22% Baltic:

    KZ1
    East European: 6.7%
    East Asian: 29.2%
    South European: 13.3%
    North Asian: 28.1%
    Baltic: 22.4%

    But on Dodecad, most Indo-Iranian speakers end up having more "west European" than "east European" probably because the Andronovo people were a archaic form of north-Europids before their divergence into Europe after the Ice age, or something like that.
    Last edited by d3cimat3d; 08-24-2011 at 12:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billErobreren View Post
    Man I love your threads. they're never boring. I'm glad something European still survives in these people, not sure why but I've always been drawn to them. some do look Europeanesque maybe those might fit in Southeastern Europe. kudos on the selection. have you got any more

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    No, they don't pass for europeans, unless we are talking of gypsies, which are not of european origin either.

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