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    So I will leave this thread to DNA kits.
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    Please leave this thread for DNA kits , and go around with your Wikipedia b*llshit.
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    I didn't open this thread to discussing about nonsense, please leave this thread if you are not interested in Macedonian Gedmatch kits, thanks in advance.
    Seriously man, can you pick 15-20 kits that are most represenative in your opinion and make a new Macedonian national average for Dodecad K12b? I'm curious how different it'd be from the existing one.

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    I added also DodecadK12B Regional Averages and also average from all regions.
    Under South are Southwestern / Pelagonia and Southeastern regions ,here's how regions are separated;



    Regions Calculator Gedroasia Siberian Northwest African Southeast Asian Atlantic_Med North European South Asian East African Southwest Asian East Asian Caucasus Sub Saharan
    Vardar Region DodecadK12b 5.63 1.71 0 0 30.28 27.78 0.37 0 6.3 0 27.93 0
    Vardar Region DodecadK12b 6.12 0.95 2.31 0.06 28.14 29.7 0.06 0 6.42 0 26.25 0
    Vardar Region DodecadK12b 6.44 0 1.09 0 29.96 29.23 0.18 0 5.99 0.74 26.37 0
    Vardar Region DodecadK12b 5.97 0.49 1.4 0 29.15 28.61 0.91 0 7.9 0.73 24.86 0
    Vardar Region DodecadK12b 4.21 1.16 0 0 29.35 27.9 1.19 0 6.86 0.28 29.04 0
    Vardar Region DodecadK12b 5.93 0 1.29 0 29.17 29.13 0.82 0 6.8 0 26.86 0
    Vardar Region DodecadK12b 4.98 0.63 1.43 0.36 29.55 27.86 0 0 6.39 0 28.8 0
    Vardar Region DodecadK12b 4.45 0 1.91 0.22 29.66 31.16 0 0 5.16 0 27.41 0
    Vardar Region DodecadK12b 5.78 0.55 1.05 0.1 28.86 29.83 0 0.11 6.48 0.1 27.14 0
    Vardar Region DodecadK12b 6.59 0 1.17 0.43 30.35 28.8 0 0 7.95 0 24.71 0
    Vardar Region DodecadK12b 6.73 0 1.83 0 26.94 29.12 0 0 8.13 0.63 26.61 0
    Vardar Region DodecadK12b 4.59 0.23 1.59 0 28.76 29.06 0 0 7.54 0 28.23 0
    Average 5.62 0.48 1.26 0.10 29.18 29.02 0.29 0.01 6.83 0.21 27.02 0.00
    South Regions DodecadK12b 5.37 0.36 1.68 0.82 25.93 28.57 0 0.09 7.74 0 29.44 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 3.9 0.67 0.85 0 30.81 27.8 0.39 0 8.48 0 27.09 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 6.94 0 1.48 0 29.38 28.14 0 0 7.66 1.11 25.3 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 5.78 0.18 0.06 0 27.29 28.6 0.29 0 9.79 0 28.01 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 5.86 0 0 0 29.8 29.76 0 0 6.64 0 27.94 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 4 0.49 1.39 0 28.4 30.34 0.59 0 7.03 0 27.76 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 5.28 0.06 1.98 0 27.64 29.03 0 0 7.63 0 28.33 0.05
    South Regions DodecadK12b 5.87 0.4 1.99 0 28.74 28.58 0 0 7.66 0 26.76 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 5.93 0 0.45 0 29.28 27.42 0 0 9.34 0.75 26.83 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 4.51 0.23 2.26 0 28.76 28.92 0 0 9.3 0 26.01 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 3.89 0.4 1.57 0 29.52 28.36 0.18 0 7.11 1.4 27.56 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 5.5 1.23 1.94 0.43 30.59 27.78 0 0 7.27 0 25.27 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 5.77 0 0.61 0.32 28.1 27.62 0.06 0 8.84 0 28.68 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 5.34 0.55 1.03 0 29.38 28.72 1.05 0 7.65 0 26.26 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 4.7 0 4.11 0 25.98 29.1 0.41 0 7.66 0 28.04 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 3.42 0.26 0.05 0 29.79 29.81 1.33 0 8.19 0 27.16 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 6.45 0.37 0.15 0 28.67 28.78 0 0.36 7.43 0 28.79 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 4.57 0.42 0 0 29.23 27.75 0.28 0 9.59 0 28.16 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 2.47 0 1.25 0 29.05 31.55 0 0 8.04 0 27.64 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 5.26 0 1.14 0.85 27.61 27.19 0 0 8.47 0 29.45 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 6.34 0.28 0 0 30.23 29.13 0.37 0 8.62 0 25.03 0
    South Regions DodecadK12b 4.07 0 3.05 0 29.7 23.94 0 0 10.08 0.56 28.54 0
    Average 5.06 0.27 1.23 0.11 28.81 28.50 0.23 0.02 8.19 0.17 27.46 0.00
    Polog Region DodecadK12b 5.3 0.45 2.61 0 29.51 30.43 0.94 0 6.51 0 24.22 0
    Polog Region DodecadK12b 6.74 0 0.52 0 29.21 31.26 0 0 5.73 0.54 26.01 0
    Polog Region DodecadK12b 7.36 0 0.25 0 29.14 29.59 0 0 6.87 0.5 26.3 0
    Polog Region DodecadK12b 5.55 0 0.63 0.43 29.04 30.16 0 0 7.14 0 27.06 0
    Polog Region DodecadK12b 6.42 0 0 0 28.4 29.82 0 0 8.1 0.14 27.12 0
    Polog Region DodecadK12b 3.26 0.95 1.67 0 26.43 30.16 0.46 0 6.41 0.44 30.24 0
    Polog Region DodecadK12b 6.58 0 1.61 0.36 29.9 32.28 0 0 4.52 0 24.74 0
    Polog Region DodecadK12b 4.26 0 1.4 0 28.57 31.22 0.83 0 6.71 0.32 26.69 0
    Polog Region DodecadK12b 4.03 0.88 3.55 0 25.5 30.91 0 0 7.23 0 27.91 0
    Polog Region DodecadK12b 4.8 0.69 0.2 0 26.46 32.15 0 0 7.13 0 28.19 0
    Polog Region DodecadK12b 7.41 0 0 0.38 31.41 32.84 0 0.23 5.94 0 21.79 0
    Average 5.61 0.27 1.13 0.11 28.51 30.98 0.20 0.02 6.57 0.18 26.39 0.00
    Eastern Region DodecadK12b 1.40 0.55 0.16 0.31 29.93 34.42 0.00 0.00 7.25 0.00 25.99 0.00
    Eastern Region DodecadK12b 2.48 0.31 1.52 0.00 28.67 32.60 0.00 0.00 6.95 1.10 26.37 0.00
    Eastern Region DodecadK12b 5.95 0.85 0.34 0.00 28.98 28.41 0.51 0.00 7.56 0.70 26.69 0.00
    Eastern Region DodecadK12b 6.42 0.56 0.00 0.00 28.41 28.99 0.00 0.00 7.31 0.58 27.72 0.00
    Eastern Region DodecadK12b 5.81 0.06 0.11 0.55 28.82 30.39 0.00 0.00 5.65 0.00 28.61 0.00
    Eastern Region DodecadK12b 5.82 0.00 1.01 0.49 29.59 28.69 0.00 0.00 8.85 0.00 25.55 0.00
    Average 4.65 0.39 0.52 0.23 29.07 30.58 0.09 0.00 7.26 0.40 26.82 0.00
    Northeast&Skopje Region DodecadK12b 4.72 0.43 0.00 0.30 26.64 29.16 0.00 0.00 8.92 0.00 29.52 0.31
    Northeast&Skopje Region DodecadK12b 4.80 0.87 1.03 0.00 26.79 32.02 0.00 0.00 6.88 0.33 27.28 0.00
    Northeast&Skopje Region DodecadK12b 4.20 0.00 0.83 0.06 25.82 32.80 0.00 0.07 7.83 0.41 27.97 0.00
    Northeast&Skopje Region DodecadK12b 4.96 0.49 0.89 0.47 27.31 31.04 0.00 0.00 7.38 0.59 26.88 0.00
    Northeast&Skopje Region DodecadK12b 4.13 0.34 0.23 0.00 28.59 30.63 0.00 0.00 8.85 0.00 27.24 0.00
    Northeast&Skopje Region DodecadK12b 4.17 0.88 1.39 0.00 28.35 30.46 0.00 0.18 5.62 0.00 28.96 0.00
    Northeast&Skopje Region DodecadK12b 2.68 0.00 0.78 1.04 26.99 31.24 0.00 0.00 6.98 0.41 29.88 0.00
    Northeast&Skopje Region DodecadK12b 4.94 0.00 0.00 0.48 28.74 28.25 0.00 0.00 7.64 0.00 29.95 0.00
    Northeast&Skopje Region DodecadK12b 4.27 0.11 1.25 0.00 27.62 31.93 0.30 0.00 7.25 0.28 27.02 0.00
    Northeast&Skopje Region DodecadK12b 5.48 0.56 0.13 0.00 27.78 33.65 0.00 0.00 6.51 0.31 25.55 0.00
    Northeast&Skopje Region DodecadK12b 5.60 0.31 0.96 0.00 29.50 30.15 0.53 0.00 6.23 0.00 26.51 0.21
    Average 4.54 0.36 0.68 0.21 27.65 31.03 0.08 0.02 7.28 0.21 27.89 0.05
    AVERAGE_ALL 5.09 0.35 0.96 0.15 28.64 30.02 0.18 0.01 7.23 0.23 27.11 0.01


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    Eurogenes K13 Vardar Region 23.4 17.66 22.46 10.96 21.79 0.61 0 0 1.28 1.39 0.45 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Vardar Region 24.95 18.23 16.98 11.13 23.42 2.32 0.24 0.65 0.42 1.29 0 0.3 0.05
    Eurogenes K13 Vardar Region 26.15 19.03 19.35 11.39 21.87 0.75 0 0.19 0 1.04 0.22 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Vardar Region 23.08 19.92 20.01 8.89 21.14 3.89 0.53 0 1.03 0 1.51 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Vardar Region 20.02 19.6 24.44 11.52 20.51 1.1 0.79 0 1.1 0.91 0 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Vardar Region 24.32 19.78 19.27 11.46 21.06 2.55 0.31 0 0 0 1.25 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Vardar Region 21.4 19.31 21.83 13.53 18.74 3.36 0 0.59 0 0.93 0.31 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Vardar Region 24.57 20.39 23.71 11.77 15.85 2.44 1.27 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Vardar Region 24.31 20.31 21.45 12.17 19.52 0.53 0 0.46 0.85 0 0 0.36 0
    Eurogenes K13 Vardar Region 25.74 19.17 18.22 9.22 23.84 1.97 0 1.84 0 0 0 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Vardar Region 24.87 18.4 18.76 13.55 20.15 2.56 0 1.07 0.17 0 0.48 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Vardar Region 24.27 18.19 21.47 12.65 20.38 2.18 0 0 0.17 0.6 0 0 0.09
    Vardar Region Average 23.92 19.17 20.66 11.52 20.69 2.02 0.26 0.40 0.42 0.51 0.35 0.06 0.01
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 19.27 20.58 18.45 13.03 25.29 1.07 0 0.1 1.25 0.12 0.85 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 22.55 20.37 22.14 8.79 22.15 3.30 0.08 0.25 0.14 0.06 0.14 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 18.61 19.46 21.25 11.69 23.58 2.35 0.75 0 2.32 0 0 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 22.19 19.89 20.33 11.85 19.72 4.69 0 0.66 0 0 0.67 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 22.13 20.86 19.97 11.72 21.72 2.32 0 0.41 0.4 0.22 0 0.2 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 23.77 19.85 20.48 10.98 22.64 0.16 0 0 0.37 1.41 0.34 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 21.84 20.55 19.69 11.57 23.63 1.25 0.81 0 0 0.37 0.16 0 0.13
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 19.32 20.54 20.49 11.27 25.04 2.32 0 0 0.73 0.29 0 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 21 19.54 21.4 11.26 22.2 3.09 0 0.78 0 0.7 0 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 23.73 19.67 19.77 9.43 22.04 4.54 0 0 0.29 0 0.54 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 19.59 20.9 21.83 8.76 24.55 2.02 0 1.63 0 0.71 0 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 22.81 19.52 20.9 9.62 21.89 2.27 0 0.46 0.6 0.9 0.72 0.12 0.2
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 21.65 18.55 18.86 11.83 24.8 3.27 0 0.07 0 0.68 0.28 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 20.86 20.27 20.38 9.54 23.84 1.84 1.17 0 0.75 0.43 0.94 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 23.22 19.51 19.62 11.94 22.3 2.37 0.78 0 0 0 0.25 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 22.33 21.47 20.47 8.54 21.37 3.51 1.7 0 0 0.63 0 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 19.96 21.25 20 11.97 24.57 0.26 0 0 0.25 0.84 0.89 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 20.86 20.09 19.21 10.19 25.84 2.67 0 0 0 0.37 0.76 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 25.16 20.4 16.41 8.82 26.46 1.98 0 0 0 0.54 0.21 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 19.76 19.08 20.55 12.42 23.18 3.1 0 0.13 0 1.19 0.6 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 21.96 19.63 21.21 12.24 21.84 2.2 0 0 0.3 0.15 0.48 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 South Regions 18.93 17.64 23.29 9.51 26.2 3.04 1.19 0 0.19 0 0 0 0
    South Regions Average 21.43 19.98 20.30 10.77 23.40 2.44 0.29 0.20 0.35 0.44 0.36 0.01 0.02
    Eurogenes K13 Polog Region 23.79 20.9 21.19 11.33 15.48 3.67 1.95 0.33 0 0.45 0 0.86 0
    Eurogenes K13 Polog Region 22.51 24.13 16.62 12.24 23.64 0 0 0 0.75 0.08 0 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Polog Region 21.69 21.74 19.39 13.15 20.11 2.26 0.89 0.53 0 0.24 0 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Polog Region 19.09 22.54 20.5 10.08 26.25 0.15 0 0.25 0.2 0.06 0.87 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Polog Region 23.72 20.31 19.98 13.23 17.63 3.69 0.48 0.66 0 0.24 0 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Polog Region 20.69 22.74 19.55 8.65 25.35 0.91 0 0 0.9 0.67 0.3 0 0.24
    Eurogenes K13 Polog Region 23.43 22.84 22.8 9.93 19.35 0 0.77 0.88 0 0 0 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Polog Region 22.35 23.26 18.29 9.49 23.71 0.91 0.18 0 0.75 0.18 0.81 0 0.06
    Eurogenes K13 Polog Region 20.54 22.38 18.4 10.38 21.89 4.34 0 0 0.17 1.16 0.74 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Polog Region 24.03 23.94 16.08 13.24 18.81 2.64 0 0 0.97 0 0.29 0 0
    Eurogenes K13 Polog Region 24 22.94 21.52 11.21 16.36 2.9 0.84 0.23 0 0 0 0 0
    Polog Region Average 22.35 22.52 19.48 11.18 20.78 1.95 0.46 0.26 0.34 0.28 0.27 0.08 0.03
    Eurogenes K13 Eastern Region 29.57 22.12 19.79 5.65 19.51 2.09 0.00 1.22 0.05 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Eastern Region 24.71 21.04 21.12 10.44 17.00 3.64 0.00 1.31 0.00 0.74 0.00 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Eastern Region 20.88 20.14 22.33 11.74 18.84 3.38 0.65 0.00 1.37 0.31 0.35 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Eastern Region 23.34 19.96 20.68 12.16 20.73 1.73 0.00 0.00 0.27 0.07 1.05 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Eastern Region 24.55 21.43 20.41 12.62 19.23 0.59 0.00 0.87 0.00 0.11 0.20 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Eastern Region 26.57 17.40 19.09 10.32 19.86 4.94 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.08 0.75 0.00 0.00
    Eastern Region Average 24.94 20.35 20.57 10.49 19.20 2.73 0.11 0.57 0.28 0.39 0.39 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Northeast&Skopje Regions 20.06 21.88 18.34 10.44 26.57 1.40 0.00 0.00 0.41 0.00 0.75 0.00 0.13
    Eurogenes K13 Northeast&Skopje Regions 21.41 23.99 18.19 11.77 20.00 3.03 0.00 0.35 0.77 0.49 0.00 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Northeast&Skopje Regions 20.04 24.41 17.80 12.82 20.64 3.06 0.00 0.55 0.00 0.00 0.69 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Northeast&Skopje Regions 21.16 21.70 21.63 13.58 17.97 1.69 0.00 1.15 0.56 0.47 0.00 0.11 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Northeast&Skopje Regions 22.31 22.41 18.59 10.47 21.79 3.47 0.33 0.00 0.00 0.62 0.00 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Northeast&Skopje Regions 23.11 21.07 20.51 14.10 18.07 1.48 0.00 0.23 0.74 0.00 0.60 0.08 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Northeast&Skopje Regions 22.27 23.26 17.27 10.55 22.26 2.26 0.00 1.88 0.00 0.00 0.25 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Northeast&Skopje Regions 22.21 19.06 20.42 12.54 22.54 3.00 0.00 0.07 0.00 0.16 0.00 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Northeast&Skopje Regions 22.70 21.87 19.62 9.74 21.55 2.40 0.00 0.00 0.91 0.31 0.61 0.00 0.30
    Eurogenes K13 Northeast&Skopje Regions 23.82 24.67 17.84 10.37 19.08 2.85 0.12 0.00 0.53 0.65 0.08 0.00 0.00
    Eurogenes K13 Northeast&Skopje Regions 22.43 21.21 20.26 11.61 20.70 2.01 0.53 0.00 0.00 0.25 0.99 0.00 0.00
    Northeast Region Average 21.96 22.32 19.13 11.64 21.02 2.42 0.09 0.38 0.36 0.27 0.36 0.02 0.04
    Eurogenes K13 AVERAGE_ALL 22.92 20.87 20.03 11.12 21.02 2.31 0.24 0.36 0.35 0.38 0.35 0.03 0.02
    Distance: 2.6382% / 0.02638231 | ADC: 0.5x RC
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    Thanks Johnny, great job! We will delete the old Macedonian average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Thanks Johnny, great job! We will delete the old Macedonian average.
    Why? there's nothing wrong with the old average on Dodecad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paradox View Post
    Why? there's nothing wrong with the old average on Dodecad.
    So you think Johnny is trolling. I don't think what he's doing fits the definition of "trolling" though.
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    The new one is considerably more Southern, in particular its North European (primary Northeast Euro marker) is 3+ percent lower than Johnny's. In fact if you look at the new regional averages, none of the regions is above 31%. I don't know which one is more accurate, to be honest.
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    Johnny, can you please post all the kits you have from northern Greece?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    So you think Johnny is trolling. I don't think what he's doing fits the definition of "trolling" though.


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    The new one is considerably more Southern, in particular its North European (primary Northeast Euro marker) is 3+ percent lower than Johnny's. In fact if you look at the new regional averages, none of the regions is above 31%. I don't know which one is more accurate, to be honest.
    It's impossible to troll when someone created such a long thread full of real kits, which could be checked by everyone. I still don't understand those who think JohhnyP has agenda. If he will post only averages yes it could be, but not in such a detailed thread with hundred kits, please.

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