Haplogroup J2a From Balkan Highland Regions

[Black Wolf]

I am curious about Y-DNA haplogroup J2a from the highland regions of the Balkans? Anyone here know of any J2a results from highland areas of anywhere in the Balkan countries?

[Pine]

Wrong forum to ask. Everyone here is retarded. Why are you isolating the highland regions? What's your deepest known subclade?

[Kaspias]

I know a Pomak from mountainous part of Drama.

[Black Wolf]

Wrong forum to ask. Everyone here is retarded. Why are you isolating the highland regions? What's your deepest known subclade?

I am interested in highland areas in terms of history and ethnology. I am interested in all J2a not just my own subclade.

[Pater Patota]

J2a from highland Balkan areas, hmmmm...Turkish members would say they’re Ottoman Turks.

[CommonSense]

It only exists in relevant numbers in Montenegro, though certain unrelated branches can be found in other places sporadically. Among the 23 tested people with Vlach/Romanian roots from eastern Serbia, five of them were found to be J2a carriers. It's a significant percentage, but the sample is quite small.

[vbnetkhio]

I am curious about Y-DNA haplogroup J2a from the highland regions of the Balkans? Anyone here know of any J2a results from highland areas of anywhere in the Balkan countries?

There are hotspots in Montenegro, Herzegovina and the Balkan mountains in Bulgaria according to this map.

[Jana]

J2a should be around half of total Croatian J2. But I would expect more of it on islands and the coast rather than in mountain regions.
There was a Croat TA member who is J2a-M67, he was from hilly region of NW Croatia though.

[Pribislav]

There are hotspots some in Montenegro, Herzegovina and the Balkan mountains in Bulgaria according to this map.

Pješivci and Cuce are J2a-M92>Z8096>S8230.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pješivci
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuce

Their paternal ancestor probably arrived to the Montenegro in 15th century from Italy accompanied of Jelisaveta wife of Đurađ Crnojević (she was from Venetian noble family) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Đurađ_Crnojević

[Epirus DNA]

I am J2a from the Pogoni region of Greece, North of Ioannina. From what I understand, you're Calabrian. Epirotes and the Magna Grecia colonies in Italy have genetic affinities.

Quite a few ancient Mediterranean and Middle Eastern civilisations flourished in territories where J2 lineages were preponderant. This is the case of the Hattians, the Hurrians, the Etruscans, the Minoans, the Greeks, the Phoenicians (and their Carthaginian offshoot), the Israelites, and to a lower extent also the Romans, the Assyrians and the Persians. All the great seafaring civilisations from the middle Bronze Age to the Iron Age were dominated by J2 men.

EUPEDIA LINK: https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplo...J2_Y-DNA.shtml

The world's highest frequency of J2 is found among the Ingush (88% of the male lineages) and Chechen (56%) people in the Northeast Caucasus. Both belong to the Nakh ethnic group, who have inhabited that territory since at least 3000 BCE. Their language is distantly related to Dagestanian languages, but not to any other linguistic group. However, Dagestani peoples (Dargins, Lezgins, Avars) belong predominantly to haplogroup J1 (84% among the Dargins) and almost completely lack J2 lineages. Other high incidence of haplogroup J2 are found in many other Caucasian populations, including the Azeri (30%), the Georgians (27%), the Kumyks (25%), and the Armenians (22%). Nevertheless, it is very unlikely that haplogroups J2 originated in the Caucasus because of the low genetic diversity in the region. Most Caucasian people belong to the same CTS6804 subclade and share a common patrilineal ancestor who lived some 7,500 years ago, at the time of the Neolithic expansion to the Caucasus.

The Chechens and Ingushs belong almost exclusively to the Y7800 clade, which formed only 2,000 years ago and has a TMRCA of approximately 1,500 years. The high local frequencies observed would rather be the result of founder effects, for instance the proliferation of chieftains and kings's lineages through a long tradition of polygamy, a practice that the Russians have tried to suppress since their conquest of the Caucasus in the 19th century.

Outside the Caucasus, the highest frequencies of J2 are observed in Cyprus (37%), Crete (34%), northern Iraq (28%), Lebanon (26%), Turkey (24%, with peaks of 30% in the Marmara region and in central Anatolia), Greece (23%), Central Italy (23%), Sicily (23%), South Italy (21.5%), and Albania (19.5%), as well as among Jewish people (19 to 25%).

One fourth of the Vlach people (isolated communities of Romance language speakers in the Balkans) belong to J2, considerably more than the average of Macedonia and northern Greece where they live. This, combined to the fact that they speak a language descended from Latin, suggests that they could have a greater part of Roman (or at least Italian) ancestry than other ethnic groups in the Balkans.

EUPEDIA LINK: https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplo...J2_Y-DNA.shtml



I3708, I3709, I3920, Neolithic, 5500-3700 BCE

http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/09/135616
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/135616

I3708
mtDNA: T1a

I3709
mtDNA: K1b1a

I3920
mtDNA: H

I2318, Final Neolithic, 4043-3947 calBCE

http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/09/135616
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/135616

I2318
mtDNA: H2

I0071, I0070, I0073, I0074, I9005, Minoan, 2000-1700 BCE

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...38/nature23310

I0071:
mtDNA: U5a1

I0070:
mtDNA: H13a1
Y-DNA: J2a1d

I0073:
mtDNA: H
Y-DNA: J2a1

I0074:
mtDNA: H5

I9005:
mtDNA: H

I9033, Mycenaean, 1416-1280 calBCE

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...38/nature23310

I9033:
mtDNA: H

I9006, Mycenaean, 1411-1262 cal BCE

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...38/nature23310

I9006:
mtDNA: X2d


I9010, I9041, Mycenaean, 1700-1200 BCE

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...38/nature23310

I9010:
mtDNA: X2

I9041:
mtDNA: X2