The Greeks Really do Have Near Mythical Origins, Ancient DNA Reveals

[Kmakkmak]

Don't remember and too lazy to check, although the authors said they didn't find autosomal differences between elites and commoners so probably the haplogroups were also similar.

Autosomal is no different I read it but Y DNA is key origin from they coming.

[Kaspias]

What is royal mycenaeans? R1a or R1b or J2?

Take it as only an opinion:

There is a genetic continuum between Minoans and Mycenaeans but Mycenaeans seems to have additional Steppe, considering they were the ones that gave identification, it is clear that royal ones were the Steppe people at the beginning.

I would go with R1b.

[Epirus DNA]

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[Epirus DNA]

Take it as only an opinion:

There is a genetic continuum between Minoans and Mycenaeans but Mycenaeans seems to have additional Steppe, considering they were the ones that gave identification, it is clear that royal ones were the Steppe people at the beginning.

I would go with R1b.

Hell no. There is no way Agamemnon was an R1b pussy.

[Kmakkmak]

Hell no. There is no way Agamemnon was an R1b pussy.

Agamemnon Y DNA is obscure but I read on internet Mycennnan grave excavation

[Kmakkmak]

Hell no. There is no way Agamemnon was an R1b pussy.

Agamemnon Y DNA is obscure but I read on internet Mycennnan grave excavation

[Kmakkmak]

Take it as only an opinion:

There is a genetic continuum between Minoans and Mycenaeans but Mycenaeans seems to have additional Steppe, considering they were the ones that gave identification, it is clear that royal ones were the Steppe people at the beginning.

I would go with R1b.

I think you are agree.

[Konstantinos]

Take it as only an opinion:

There is a genetic continuum between Minoans and Mycenaeans but Mycenaeans seems to have additional Steppe, considering they were the ones that gave identification, it is clear that royal ones were the Steppe people at the beginning.

I would go with R1b.

That they brought R1b is almost certain, was it dominant though? Not sure. Remember the additional "eastern" ancestry could also be modelled via Armenia so it's still very open.

[Rabbit Hole]

That they brought R1b is almost certain, was it dominant though? Not sure. Remember the additional "eastern" ancestry could also be modelled via Armenia so it's still very open.

They used to words Caucasus admixture. Maybe some of the early Armenians were related to the Hittites too. I have heard some claims they are to do with the Hurranians too but i don't know

[Kaspias]

That they brought R1b is almost certain, was it dominant though? Not sure. Remember the additional "eastern" ancestry could also be modelled via Armenia so it's still very open.

Was it dominant among newcomers? That's a good question. I think it was somewhat dominant, but it is really open to discussing.

As far as I remember that Armenia sample used for modeling was steppe rich. I wondered actually, will check it tomorrow.