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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    We run into a tricky position with the Serbs. On one end, they lead a mission that exterminated the Ottomans from Macedonia, of which Macedonian locals also joined and helped the cause. And on the other hand, Macedonians received some nasty treatment by the Serbian authorities after liberation.

    I don't think the monument should be flatted though. It commemorates the death of alot of people. I'd prefer the flattening of statues such as the one of Nazi Albanian collaborators that have been erected in Macedonia. The statue of Xhem Hasa is one of them.
    We have ongoing unresolved issues with the Serbs. No need to cheer for them.

    Perhaps a thread for this next time?


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    I was told that when the Bulgarians occupied the South Serbia (not Macedonia as it was referred to) they destroyed most of the Serbian churches. This seams that it doesn't make sense since both are Orthodox. But it does make sense. They intended to rebuild them as Bulgarian so the Serbian entity of the Churches would be forgotten and so the identity of the people.

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    Near Tsaribrod / today in Serbia / are buried more than 100 Bulgarian soldiers who died during the Serbian-Bulgarian War of 1885, the two Balkan Wars and the Second World War.
    In her memory the Bulgarian state built a memorial monument and a cemetery in 1942. They only existed for 5 years. Now there are empty meadows in their places. In 1947. The monument was blown up because Serbian authorities identified it as fascist. In the same year the Bulgarian military graves were also deleted.
    There is another monument near Tsaribrod - the Neshkov Peak ossuary. It is commemorated by the killed Serbian and Bulgarian soldiers in 1885. During the First World War, the monument was destroyed by Serbs, rebuilt years later
    If we go to pay, then the Serbs and God cannot pay for their sins and their meanness towards the Bulgarians in Bulgaria and those in Macedonia.
    ...Even if a man lives well, he dies and another one comes into existence. Let the one who comes later upon seeing this inscription remember the one who had made it. And the name is Omurtag, Kanasubigi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAGANE View Post
    Near Tsaribrod / today in Serbia / are buried more than 100 Bulgarian soldiers who died during the Serbian-Bulgarian War of 1885, the two Balkan Wars and the Second World War.
    In her memory the Bulgarian state built a memorial monument and a cemetery in 1942. They only existed for 5 years. Now there are empty meadows in their places. In 1947. The monument was blown up because Serbian authorities identified it as fascist. In the same year the Bulgarian military graves were also deleted.
    There is another monument near Tsaribrod - the Neshkov Peak ossuary. It is commemorated by the killed Serbian and Bulgarian soldiers in 1885. During the First World War, the monument was destroyed by Serbs, rebuilt years later
    If we go to pay, then the Serbs and God cannot pay for their sins and their meanness towards the Bulgarians in Bulgaria and those in Macedonia.
    Serbs never came to Bulgaria to make crimes against Bulgarian civilians.

    Bulgarians in WW1 and WW2 came to east part of Kosovo, southeastern, east and part of central Serbia as occupators and commotted many crimes against Serbian civilians.

    https://balkaninsight.com/2019/04/12...ng-wwi-crimes/

    https://en.wikipedia.orgwiki/Surdulica_massacre

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    You don't learn about crimes which you ancestors committed against Serbs in Serbia, is not it?

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    Yes, and then it should give fyrom back where it belongs: Serbia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    The Battle of Kumanovo and the entry of the Serbian army into Macedonia brought alot of pain and misery to the Macedonians. It spawned the rebirth of VMRO under Todor Aleksandrov and a struggle against the Serbs. It should be flattened to the ground.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    We run into a tricky position with the Serbs. On one end, they lead a mission that exterminated the Ottomans from Macedonia, of which Macedonian locals also joined and helped the cause. And on the other hand, Macedonians received some nasty treatment by the Serbian authorities after liberation.


    Very touching.

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    [QUOTE = Pribislav; 6632588] Сърбите никога не са идвали в България, за да правят престъпления срещу български цивилни.

    Българите в Първата и Втората световна война дойдоха в източната част на Косово, югоизточна, източна и част от централна Сърбия като окупатори и извършиха много престъпления срещу сръбски цивилни.

    https://balkaninsight.com/2019/04/12/serbia-under-bulgarian-occupation-documenting-wwi-crimes/

    https: //bg.wikipedia.orgwiki/Surdulica_massacre

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    Вие не научавате за престъпления, които предци, извършени срещу сърби в Сърбия, нали? [/ ЦИТАТ]

    All this is inspired by Serbian meanness and greed from the time of the Serbian-Bulgarian War. And what did you attack Bulgaria for ?! What killed thousands of Bulgarians defending their homeland? When Bulgaria was at war with the Ottoman Empire and the entire army was on the border with present-day Turkey, Serbia invaded Bulgaria to seize lands it never owned. God has punished you for that. Thank the Austro-Hungarian Empire for saving you, because today you own the old Bulgarian lands and cities - Pirot, Nis and Belgrade. A Bulgarian would never trust a Serb.
    ...Even if a man lives well, he dies and another one comes into existence. Let the one who comes later upon seeing this inscription remember the one who had made it. And the name is Omurtag, Kanasubigi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAGANE View Post
    [QUOTE = Pribislav; 6632588] Сърбите никога не са идвали в България, за да правят престъпления срещу български цивилни.

    Българите в Първата и Втората световна война дойдоха в източната част на Косово, югоизточна, източна и част от централна Сърбия като окупатори и извършиха много престъпления срещу сръбски цивилни.

    https://balkaninsight.com/2019/04/12/serbia-under-bulgarian-occupation-documenting-wwi-crimes/

    https: //bg.wikipedia.orgwiki/Surdulica_massacre

    ^^
    Вие не научавате за престъпления, които предци, извършени срещу сърби в Сърбия, нали? [/ ЦИТАТ]

    All this is inspired by Serbian meanness and greed from the time of the Serbian-Bulgarian War. And what did you attack Bulgaria for ?! What killed thousands of Bulgarians defending their homeland? When Bulgaria was at war with the Ottoman Empire and the entire army was on the border with present-day Turkey, Serbia invaded Bulgaria to seize lands it never owned. God has punished you for that. Thank the Austro-Hungarian Empire for saving you, because today you own the old Bulgarian lands and cities - Pirot, Nis and Belgrade. A Bulgarian would never trust a Serb.
    And what about 1913? Who saved us then? Oh, wait, we didn't lost.

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    Unless they offer to pay for it, no. If people ask for reparations for things that happened years before then it will be an endless cycle. It will go on and on until even I am paying for destruction of Athens 2500 years ago. It is not fair, because I had nothing to do with it, same with Bulgarians who 90% of them were not even alive during WW2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    The Battle of Kumanovo and the entry of the Serbian army into Macedonia brought alot of pain and misery to the Macedonians. It spawned the rebirth of VMRO under Todor Aleksandrov and a struggle against the Serbs. It should be flattened to the ground.
    Kme, kme, kme...

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