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    this falls into the broader discussion whether Eastern Europe is Europe at all or should Europe be called only the so-called Western Europe.

    Pontic type is a Black Sea type and the native populations on the Black Sea shores are Russkies, Tatars, Balkanites, Caucasus peoples and Turks, that's quite heterogeneous, in genes, ancestry, looks, culture and language families. is this European? maybe marginally, but mostly it is not, not in the Western European range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbat14 View Post
    I meant to ask if the phenotype is considered as Europoid
    Yeah but so is Armenoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbat14 View Post
    Say which phenotype is more European Garcile med or pontid
    Gracile med, they look like pigmented and less angular nordids somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaison View Post
    Gracile med, they look like pigmented and less angular nordids somehow.
    Ralph Macchio is Gracile-Med. Looks pretty European if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri159 View Post
    Ralph Macchio is Gracile-Med. Looks pretty European if you ask me.
    I already implied gracile med looks more Europoid than pontid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbat14 View Post
    I meant to ask if the phenotype is considered as Europoid
    If you mean Caucasoid; yes, Pontid is a subtype of Mediterranid and Mediterranid is one of the Caucasoid types.

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    http://humanphenotypes.net/Pontid.html
    it is European looking, mostly exotic looking Pontids have other influences

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    This is silly there’s no such thing as “European looking” first of all. Phenotypes overlap from continent to continent. Pontid is found in Asia and Europe, so I guess you can consider it Eurasian kinda like Armenoid or Alpinid. The only way I guess you can consider a phenotype as fully “European looking” is if it can only be found in Europe, for example Norid or Brunn. So the whole “European look” theory is pointless.

    There is however a classification called Caucasoid, which includes all the types found in Europe and Asia.

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    It is found among native population of (Eastern) Europe, so why should it not be considered as a European phenotype?

    But again, it depends on what we consider to be Europe, because "Europe" is social construct and changed its meaning many times throught the history.

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    Lol. Of course it is. There is a lot of people in Eastern/Southeastern Europe who have 100℅ European ancestry and are Pontids. Phenotypes are not good indicators of ancestry. Lol at this comparison with Western Europe, with every new day spent here I am more and more sure that shitload of people from Eastern/Southeastern Europe have inferiority complex toward Western and Northern Europe, I honestly thought that's just myth/exaggerating but it seems it's true, unfortunately.

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