South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results - vol.2

**~~Altaylı~~** · 10-05-2020, 05:25 PM

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**Leto** · 10-05-2020, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Yeah. More northern than Hrvoje for example. Prigorje is region around Zagreb, so natives of capital (so-called Purgeri) should look like that.
But we need more samples. I'd say both of them are typical.

How much North European do both of them score on Dod K12b? Just curious.

**Jana** · 10-05-2020, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

How much North European do both of them score on Dod K12b? Just curious.

I don't have this guy kit number, only his K36 besides K13. Hrvoje is collecting other's people results on Croatian forum where I'm banned.
He scores 44% iirc (like me)

We're very similar genetically on gedmatch, he's closer to me than my parents.

**Jana** · 10-06-2020, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

New sample of eastern Croat from Slavonia.

Code:

Croat_Slavonia,25.1,36.93,12.85,10.36,11.5,0.28,0,0,1.9,1.09,0,0,0

Distance to: Croat_Slavonia

2.90117218 Bosniak_Bosnia_proper
4.83859484 Moldova_North
5.03498759 Croat_Slavonia
5.63079035 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
6.15171521 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
6.29011129 Croat
6.29176446 Bosniak_Sarajevo
6.40932134 Croat_Croatia
6.51955520 Croat_B&H
6.52363396 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
6.61304771 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
6.88099557 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
6.94893517 Hungarian_Alfold
7.26223106 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
7.43372047 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
7.54810572 Croat_Croatia_Central
7.56142182 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
7.68698250 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.75371524 Bosniak
8.10628768 Hungarian
8.11573237 Slovak
8.12732428 Hungarian_Northern
8.14310137 Moldova_Centre
8.31692251 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
8.31800457 Serb_B&H

Target: Croat_Slavonia
Distance: 1.7776% / 1.77757511 | ADC: 0.25x

88.2 Bosniak_Bosnia_proper
6.8 Erzya
2.6 Southwest_Russian
1.4 Lezgin
1.0 Chuvash

His haplogroup is I2 din.

**Leto** · 10-08-2020, 08:59 PM

Bosniak

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.04
2 North_Atlantic 25.64
3 West_Med 15.3
4 East_Med 13.44
5 West_Asian 5.2
6 South_Asian 0.77
7 Siberian 0.46
8 East_Asian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 5.43
2 Moldavian 7.19
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.62
4 Ukrainian 8.68
5 South_Polish 8.98
6 Hungarian 9.76
7 Serbian 11.49
8 Southwest_Russian 11.71
9 Polish 11.87
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.47
11 East_German 13.35
12 Russian_Smolensk 13.45
13 Estonian_Polish 13.48
14 Austrian 13.86
15 Belorussian 14.13
16 Romanian 14.74
17 Bulgarian 16.22
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.42
19 Erzya 18
20 Southwest_Finnish 18.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.2% Ukrainian + 18.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.97
2 65.4% Estonian_Polish + 34.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.99
3 84% Ukrainian + 16% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.01
4 84.1% Ukrainian + 15.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.01
5 55% Estonian_Polish + 45% Bulgarian @ 4.01
6 57.5% Lithuanian + 42.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.12
7 64.3% Belorussian + 35.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.17
8 53.7% Belorussian + 46.3% Bulgarian @ 4.18
9 76.2% Ukrainian + 23.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.21
10 71.5% Estonian_Polish + 28.5% West_Sicilian @ 4.23
11 53.5% Bulgarian + 46.5% Lithuanian @ 4.25
12 81.3% Southwest_Russian + 18.7% Sardinian @ 4.28
13 73.8% Estonian_Polish + 26.2% South_Italian @ 4.32
14 64.1% Lithuanian + 35.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.32
15 67.5% Ukrainian + 32.5% Bulgarian @ 4.35
16 82.8% Ukrainian + 17.2% South_Italian @ 4.44
17 85.5% Ukrainian + 14.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.44
18 84.6% Ukrainian + 15.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.44
19 81.2% Ukrainian + 18.8% West_Sicilian @ 4.46
20 52.5% Estonian_Polish + 47.5% Romanian @ 4.46

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.78
2 Eastern_Euro 18
3 Atlantic 17.88
4 North_Sea 16.24
5 West_Med 10.03
6 East_Med 8.82
7 West_Asian 4.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.88
2 Moldavian 7.37
3 South_Polish 7.88
4 Ukrainian 8.61
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.69
6 Russian_Smolensk 9.32
7 Hungarian 9.45
8 Polish 9.49
9 Austrian 9.5
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.14
11 Southwest_Russian 10.33
12 Estonian_Polish 11.21
13 Serbian 11.21
14 Belorussian 11.36
15 East_German 12.95
16 Romanian 13.22
17 Kargopol_Russian 13.97
18 Bulgarian 14.74
19 Lithuanian 14.99
20 Estonian 15.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% Estonian_Polish + 32.5% Greek @ 2.74
2 72.7% Estonian_Polish + 27.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.17
3 67.4% Belorussian + 32.6% Greek @ 3.21
4 57.3% Estonian_Polish + 42.7% Bulgarian @ 3.27
5 75% Estonian_Polish + 25% South_Italian @ 3.35
6 70.3% Estonian_Polish + 29.7% Tuscan @ 3.35
7 71.7% Polish + 28.3% Greek @ 3.39
8 67.9% Estonian_Polish + 32.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.5
9 72.3% Russian_Smolensk + 27.7% Greek @ 3.52
10 72.9% Estonian_Polish + 27.1% Central_Greek @ 3.53
11 72.3% Estonian_Polish + 27.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.6
12 72.7% Belorussian + 27.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.61
13 70.2% Belorussian + 29.8% Tuscan @ 3.69
14 57% Belorussian + 43% Bulgarian @ 3.71
15 77% Russian_Smolensk + 23% West_Sicilian @ 3.74
16 77.4% Estonian_Polish + 22.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.75
17 73.6% Estonian_Polish + 26.4% East_Sicilian @ 3.76
18 71% Southwest_Russian + 29% North_Italian @ 3.77
19 77.1% Estonian_Polish + 22.9% Italian_Jewish @ 3.79
20 82% Southwest_Russian + 18% Sardinian @ 3.81

Dodecad K12b Admixture Proportions

Population
Gedrosia 1.60 Pct
Siberian 0.63 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.08 Pct
Atlantic_Med 27.09 Pct
North_European 48.85 Pct
South_Asian 0.55 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.16 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 18.04 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

**Jana** · 10-08-2020, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Bosniak...

Similar to Šokac woman I tested. I wonder what would Commonsense say now, because he said it's hard to believe Šokci descend from Bosnia based on her results. And this Bosniak is similary highly Slavic.

**Leto** · 10-08-2020, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Similar to Šokac woman I tested. I wonder what would Commonsense say now, because he said it's hard to believe Šokci descend from Bosnia based on her results. And this Bosniak is similary highly Slavic.

Yeah, that's a real Bosniak. I can provide the email address. The account has almost a dozen of kits, all having Yugoslav Muslim names. I haven't checked the rest, only this one.

**Jana** · 10-08-2020, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Yeah, that's a real Bosniak. I can provide the email address. The account has almost a dozen of kits, all having Yugoslav Muslim names. I haven't checked the rest, only this one.

Well yes, such results are not hard to find actually, they are just not the norm.

**Noble Cuman** · 10-08-2020, 09:12 PM

Where is Bosniak from I wonder? He is closer to Croats than Serbs.

**Leto** · 10-09-2020, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Well yes, such results are not hard to find actually, they are just not the norm.

It is getting even more interesting. His close relative (mother or sister)

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 41.13
2 North_Atlantic 22.8
3 West_Med 13.86
4 East_Med 13.03
5 West_Asian 7.41
6 South_Asian 0.77
7 Siberian 0.7
8 Oceanian 0.2
9 Amerindian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.88
2 Moldavian 7.81
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.21
4 Ukrainian 8.29
5 South_Polish 9.4
6 Southwest_Russian 9.95
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.48
8 Polish 11.7
9 Hungarian 12.14
10 Russian_Smolensk 12.33
11 Estonian_Polish 12.5
12 Belorussian 13.31
13 Serbian 13.43
14 Kargopol_Russian 14.85
15 Erzya 15.59
16 East_German 16.02
17 Romanian 16.16
18 Austrian 16.59
19 Bulgarian 17.29
20 Lithuanian 17.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.7% Southwest_Russian + 26.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.91
2 64.8% Southwest_Russian + 35.2% Bulgarian @ 3.95
3 50% Lithuanian + 50% Bulgarian @ 3.99
4 60.3% Lithuanian + 39.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.04
5 79.7% Estonian_Polish + 20.3% Cyprian @ 4.07
6 82.1% Southwest_Russian + 17.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.11
7 58.7% Estonian_Polish + 41.3% Bulgarian @ 4.12
8 66% Lithuanian + 34% Central_Greek @ 4.15
9 78.3% Southwest_Russian + 21.7% Central_Greek @ 4.17
10 80.4% Southwest_Russian + 19.6% South_Italian @ 4.2
11 73.4% Lithuanian + 26.6% Cyprian @ 4.25
12 79% Southwest_Russian + 21% East_Sicilian @ 4.28
13 79.2% Southwest_Russian + 20.8% Ashkenazi @ 4.28
14 88.1% Ukrainian + 11.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.29
15 68.8% Lithuanian + 31.2% South_Italian @ 4.3
16 68.5% Estonian_Polish + 31.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.3
17 82.3% Southwest_Russian + 17.7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.3
18 73.5% Estonian_Polish + 26.5% Central_Greek @ 4.31
19 86.8% Ukrainian + 13.2% Cyprian @ 4.33
20 88% Ukrainian + 12% Samaritan @ 4.39

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.82
2 Eastern_Euro 20.19
3 Atlantic 16.71
4 North_Sea 14.71
5 West_Med 9.21
6 East_Med 9.01
7 West_Asian 5.32

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.45
2 Moldavian 7.95
3 South_Polish 8.74
4 Russian_Smolensk 9.22
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.25
6 Ukrainian 9.28
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.51
8 Southwest_Russian 9.61
9 Polish 10.14
10 Estonian_Polish 11
11 Hungarian 11.28
12 Austrian 11.3
13 Belorussian 11.32
14 Serbian 12.24
15 Kargopol_Russian 12.99
16 Romanian 13.95
17 Erzya 14.53
18 East_German 14.85
19 Lithuanian 14.92
20 Bulgarian 15.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.4% Estonian_Polish + 31.6% Greek @ 3.04
2 71.9% Southwest_Russian + 28.1% Greek @ 3.55
3 73.7% Estonian_Polish + 26.3% Central_Greek @ 3.79
4 75.8% Estonian_Polish + 24.2% South_Italian @ 3.79
5 58.9% Estonian_Polish + 41.1% Bulgarian @ 3.81
6 68.1% Belorussian + 31.9% Greek @ 3.81
7 73.1% Russian_Smolensk + 26.9% Greek @ 3.89
8 80.1% Estonian_Polish + 19.9% Cyprian @ 3.9
9 78.1% Estonian_Polish + 21.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.94
10 77% Southwest_Russian + 23% West_Sicilian @ 4.01
11 73.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 26.8% Greek @ 4.01
12 74.1% Estonian_Polish + 25.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.06
13 77.8% Estonian_Polish + 22.2% Italian_Jewish @ 4.09
14 74.5% Estonian_Polish + 25.5% East_Sicilian @ 4.15
15 62.9% Southwest_Russian + 37.1% Bulgarian @ 4.19
16 69.4% Estonian_Polish + 30.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.2
17 78% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 22% West_Sicilian @ 4.2
18 78.1% Estonian_Polish + 21.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.22
19 80.9% Southwest_Russian + 19.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.23
20 73.5% Estonian_Polish + 26.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.23

Dodecad K12b Admixture Proportions

Population
Gedrosia 2.49 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 25.20 Pct
North_European 51.12 Pct
South_Asian 0.59 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.12 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 17.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan -