South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results - vol.2

[Leto]

Any regional info about the reference for Slovenian? Are they academic samples?

The ones that were posted here last year were academic, yes. Just Slovenian, no further info. I think the country is small, so they don't need Serbo-Croatian wars for averages

[Alenka]

The ones that were posted here last years were academic, yes. Just Slovenian, no further info. I think the country is small, so they don't need Serbo-Croatian wars for averages

Slovenia is more diverse dialectaly even than some much bigger countries, maybe it also is genetically. We don't know that.
Anyways, I ask because the reference seems a bit more southern shifted than these two samples. Maybe it's a regional thing?
If reference is academic, I hope it's better than the Moldovan academic sample, in terms of how representative it is.

[Leto]

Slovenia is more diverse dialectaly even than some much bigger countries, maybe it also is genetically. We don't know that.
Anyways, I ask because the reference seems a bit more southern shifted than these two samples. Maybe it's a regional thing?
If reference is academic, I hope it's better than the Moldovan academic sample, in terms of how representative it is.

Maybe they took the samples in the capital area. I have no idea. Doesn't Slovenia have Serbo-Croatian-speaking minorities? What is the estimated minority population in Slovenia now?

[Alenka]

Maybe they took the samples in the capital area. I have no idea. Doesn't Slovenia have Serbo-Croatian-speaking minorities? What is the estimated minority population in Slovenia now?

It probably got a bit higher since then, but according to the latest census (from back in 2002), it was 17% for the country as a whole. The capital had close to 27%, while rural areas are a bit more local in comparison.

But in any case, it's also possible for the local population of some regions to be more south shifted, it may not necessarily be immigrants or their descendants. Hence why I inquired about the regional info.

[Leto]

It probably got a bit higher since then, but according to the latest census (from back in 2002), it was 17% for the country as a whole. The capital had close to 27%, while rural areas are a bit more local in comparison.

But in any case, it's also possible for the local population of some regions to be more south shifted, it may not necessarily be immigrants or their descendants. Hence why I inquired about the regional info.

Yes, I understand. I think in the first volume of this thread I posted all the samples that would later make up that average. They ranged from 29 to 40% Baltic, something like that. The average is 33% B and 30% NA.

[Leto]

Croatian or Slovenian? Žokalj

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.24
2 North_Atlantic 30.34
3 West_Med 13.05
4 West_Asian 10.24
5 East_Med 10.14
6 Amerindian 1.32
7 South_Asian 0.63
8 Red_Sea 0.61
9 Siberian 0.53
10 Oceanian 0.48
11 East_Asian 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 3.22
2 Croatian 5.14
3 Moldavian 5.78
4 Austrian 7.37
5 Serbian 7.83
6 East_German 7.97
7 South_Polish 10.11
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.36
9 Ukrainian 11.64
10 Romanian 11.68
11 Polish 13.84
12 Bulgarian 14.3
13 West_German 14.58
14 Southwest_Russian 15.24
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.29
16 South_Dutch 16.09
17 Russian_Smolensk 16.48
18 North_German 16.5
19 North_Swedish 17.11
20 Estonian_Polish 17.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94% Hungarian + 6% Chechen @ 1.97
2 94.6% Hungarian + 5.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.03
3 94.2% Hungarian + 5.8% Kabardin @ 2.03
4 94.5% Hungarian + 5.5% Adygei @ 2.04
5 94.2% Hungarian + 5.8% Lezgin @ 2.06
6 94.5% Hungarian + 5.5% Balkar @ 2.09
7 94.1% Hungarian + 5.9% Tabassaran @ 2.1
8 75.3% Moldavian + 24.7% North_German @ 2.12
9 69% Hungarian + 31% Moldavian @ 2.14
10 95.6% Hungarian + 4.4% Abhkasian @ 2.14
11 94.2% Hungarian + 5.8% Kumyk @ 2.15
12 95.4% Hungarian + 4.6% Georgian @ 2.17
13 95% Hungarian + 5% Ossetian @ 2.18
14 78.3% Moldavian + 21.7% Danish @ 2.25
15 78.6% Moldavian + 21.4% North_Dutch @ 2.28
16 79.2% Moldavian + 20.8% Norwegian @ 2.31
17 96.6% Hungarian + 3.4% Balochi @ 2.46
18 96.6% Hungarian + 3.4% Brahui @ 2.47
19 80.7% Moldavian + 19.3% Irish @ 2.49
20 96.6% Hungarian + 3.4% Makrani @ 2.52


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 21.05
2 Atlantic 19.86
3 North_Sea 17.65
4 Eastern_Euro 14.99
5 West_Med 8.59
6 East_Med 8.41
7 West_Asian 7.69
8 Amerindian 0.97
9 Oceanian 0.4
10 Southeast_Asian 0.14
11 Red_Sea 0.13
12 South_Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.84
2 Austrian 5.28
3 Moldavian 6.3
4 Hungarian 6.75
5 Serbian 7.86
6 South_Polish 9.22
7 Romanian 10.08
8 East_German 10.08
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.11
10 Ukrainian 10.67
11 Polish 11.33
12 Russian_Smolensk 11.7
13 Bulgarian 12.28
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.52
15 Southwest_Russian 12.9
16 Belorussian 14.18
17 Estonian_Polish 14.26
18 Southwest_Finnish 14.88
19 Finnish 16.01
20 Kargopol_Russian 16.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.3% Polish + 30.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.9
2 63.9% Croatian + 36.1% Austrian @ 2.93
3 63.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.9% North_Italian @ 3.03
4 60.9% Serbian + 39.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.05
5 66.5% Russian_Smolensk + 33.5% Tuscan @ 3.06
6 52.2% Polish + 47.8% Bulgarian @ 3.1
7 53.2% Romanian + 46.8% Polish @ 3.13
8 62.4% Southwest_Russian + 37.6% North_Italian @ 3.17
9 65.4% Polish + 34.6% Greek @ 3.28
10 56.5% Austrian + 43.5% Moldavian @ 3.28
11 92.9% Croatian + 7.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.34
12 79.5% Croatian + 20.5% Serbian @ 3.37
13 93.5% Croatian + 6.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.38
14 68.8% Russian_Smolensk + 31.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.41
15 54.1% Romanian + 45.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.41
16 96.3% Croatian + 3.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.41
17 95.6% Croatian + 4.4% Azeri @ 3.41
18 95.3% Croatian + 4.7% Turkish @ 3.41
19 70.8% Polish + 29.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.41
20 64.3% Southwest_Russian + 35.7% Tuscan @ 3.41


Population
Gedrosia 5.73 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.40 Pct
Atlantic_Med 27.41 Pct
North_European 45.53 Pct
South_Asian 0.27 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.43 Pct
East_Asian 0.58 Pct
Caucasus 16.65 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Žokalj
3.75747255 Hungarians
3.97349972 Croat
5.37288563 Bosnian
9.52190107 German
13.96697533 Rus_Smolensk
14.96756159 Rus_Kostroma
15.49764498 Macedonian
15.84114895 Pomak
16.12186714 Romanians
16.14752613 Mixed_Germanic

Target: Žokalj
Distance: 2.5380% / 2.53798023 | ADC: 1x
54.8 Hungarians
45.2 Croat

Target: Žokalj
Distance: 1.9955% / 1.99545643 | ADC: 0.5x
50.0 Croat
40.6 Hungarians
9.2 German
0.2 Dai

Target: Žokalj
Distance: 1.1555% / 1.15546557 | ADC: 0.25x
40.8 Hungarians
40.2 Croat
16.2 German
1.8 Dargin
1.0 CDX30

[Mingle]

Bulgarian
½ Sofia/Montana, ½ Pleven/Smolyan

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.41
2 North_Atlantic 24.32
3 East_Med 21.65
4 West_Med 14.23
5 West_Asian 9.76
6 Red_Sea 2.25
7 Northeast_African 0.52
8 Siberian 0.52
9 East_Asian 0.26
10 Sub-Saharan 0.07
11 Oceanian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.67
2 Bulgarian 5.15
3 Serbian 5.99
4 Moldavian 11.69
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.32
6 Hungarian 13.21
7 Croatian 13.92
8 Austrian 16.49
9 Tuscan 17.4
10 North_Italian 17.99
11 Italian_Abruzzo 18.24
12 East_German 18.33
13 Central_Greek 18.98
14 West_Sicilian 19.74
15 East_Sicilian 20.04
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.07
17 West_German 20.35
18 South_Polish 20.38
19 Ashkenazi 20.49
20 Ukrainian 21.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.1% South_Polish + 49.9% Ashkenazi @ 2.52
2 57.7% South_Polish + 42.3% Italian_Jewish @ 2.71
3 57.9% South_Polish + 42.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.15
4 53.4% South_Italian + 46.6% Belorussian @ 3.2
5 88.3% Serbian + 11.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.2
6 54% Ashkenazi + 46% Polish @ 3.26
7 53.6% Polish + 46.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.32
8 51.1% Belorussian + 48.9% Italian_Jewish @ 3.38
9 60.5% South_Polish + 39.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.42
10 51.8% Russian_Smolensk + 48.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.42
11 53.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.44
12 56.8% Ukrainian + 43.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.47
13 60% Croatian + 40% Ashkenazi @ 3.53
14 54% Southwest_Russian + 46% Italian_Jewish @ 3.53
15 89.2% Serbian + 10.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.57
16 59.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.6% Belorussian @ 3.58
17 51.3% Belorussian + 48.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.61
18 58.5% Central_Greek + 41.5% Belorussian @ 3.63
19 57% Ukrainian + 43% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.63
20 50.8% Ashkenazi + 49.2% Ukrainian @ 3.64

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Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 37.45
2 Atlantic_Med 25.31
3 Caucasus 22.65
4 Southwest_Asian 7.19
5 Gedrosia 5.3
6 Northwest_African 2.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 6.33
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.64
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.65
4 Hungarians (Behar) 12.54
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17.15
6 German (Dodecad) 17.67
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.54
8 Greek (Dodecad) 20.98
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.53
10 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 21.55
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 22.04
12 French (Dodecad) 22.27
13 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.35
14 French (HGDP) 22.52
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.58
16 Dutch (Dodecad) 23.06
17 Kent (1000Genomes) 25.05
18 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 25.23
19 English (Dodecad) 25.41
20 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 25.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 27.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.02
2 78.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.3% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.27
3 76.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 23.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.33
4 76.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 23.2% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.4
5 68.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 31.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.5
6 68.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 31.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.5
7 73.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 26.5% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.67
8 50.7% Polish (Dodecad) + 49.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.77
9 64.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.82
10 60% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 40% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.87
11 68.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.2% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.94
12 62.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 37.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.94
13 58.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 41.7% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.95
14 80.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 19.7% Samaritians (Behar) @ 3
15 50.6% Polish (Dodecad) + 49.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.01
16 79.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.05
17 64.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.06
18 64.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.2% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.12
19 78.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.7% Jordanians (Behar) @ 3.12
20 70.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 29.3% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 3.13

[Roke Koke]

My paternal ancestors are from Gorski kotar and Knin, maternal from Zagorje and Slavonia.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.66
2 North_Atlantic 29.99
3 West_Med 17.06
4 East_Med 11.14
5 West_Asian 8.76
6 Amerindian 1.13
7 East_Asian 0.71
8 Red_Sea 0.23
9 Northeast_African 0.17
10 Siberian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.96
2 Serbian 6.17
3 Croatian 6.29
4 Moldavian 6.32
5 Austrian 7.52
6 East_German 8.5
7 Romanian 9.88
8 South_Polish 12.46
9 Bulgarian 12.46
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.55
11 Ukrainian 13.59
12 West_German 14.06
13 South_Dutch 15.41
14 Polish 16.09
15 French 16.72
16 North_German 17.53
17 Southwest_Russian 17.79
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.02
19 Russian_Smolensk 18.92
20 North_Swedish 19.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.8% Croatian + 19.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.41
2 78.7% Croatian + 21.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.49
3 80% Croatian + 20% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.49
4 80.3% Croatian + 19.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.57
5 52.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 47.3% North_Italian @ 2.6
6 77.6% Croatian + 22.4% North_Italian @ 2.62
7 80.9% Croatian + 19.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.63
8 59.9% Ukrainian + 40.1% North_Italian @ 2.69
9 82.4% Croatian + 17.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.71
10 80% Croatian + 20% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.73
11 60.2% East_German + 39.8% Bulgarian @ 2.76
12 62% South_Polish + 38% North_Italian @ 2.77
13 78.9% Croatian + 21.1% Portuguese @ 2.79
14 79.8% Croatian + 20.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.8
15 74.5% Moldavian + 25.5% French @ 2.88
16 80.8% Croatian + 19.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.9
17 61.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 38.1% North_Italian @ 2.97
18 71.2% Moldavian + 28.8% West_German @ 3.04
19 73.2% Moldavian + 26.8% South_Dutch @ 3.06
20 79.2% Croatian + 20.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.07

[Jana]

My paternal ancestors are from Gorski kotar and Knin, maternal from Zagorje and Slavonia.

Welcome to the forum. Could you describe your exact ancestry in bit more detail?

[Roke Koke]

Welcome to the forum. Could you describe your exact ancestry in bit more detail?

Thank you. My father's side of the family comes from Bosiljevo on his paternal side (Croats), and from Kistanje and Livno on his mother's side (Serbs).

On my mother's side, her father's roots are in Donji Miholjac (paternal - Croats), while his mother descends from Swabians. My mother's maternal roots are in Bedekovčina (Croats) and Brežice (Slovenes).