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    Quote Originally Posted by Hapanuwa View Post
    It seems many Iranians really miss the old Iran prior the revolution. I must say that I'm still conflicted because I have read that only the higher class of Iran had this freedom and wealth, ehich is often shown in videos about pre-Islamic Iran. My impression is that the diaspora Iranians and the youth are very 'nostalgic' and (sometimes extremely) liberal minded. Whereas, the elderly and 40+ year olds are pro Islamic Republic and very conservative. I truely hope the best for the people of Iran. Would love to visit one day.
    People who miss "muh good old days" do not really know what it was like. On the flipside, it is not like the current situation was any better. The truth is, there were not any 'good old days' in Iran for anyone who is currently alive, as it has been in a shitty situation since 1909. And Ironically, for the average person, the current government has done much more for them than the previous one, although they will always badmouth it (usually justified however)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hapanuwa View Post
    What do you think about the reign of the Shah before the revolution? And do you think that Iran needs its own Atatürk and would you support the secularization of Iran the hard way? I think Iran is a beautiful country and would like to hear the opinion of an Iranian.
    Yea I would support it. The revolutionary guard needs to be eradicated and the whole system needs modifications. The shah was fine and people were more "free", which is something people feel nostalgic about. Thanks for your support bro, you should visit Iran someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    People who miss "muh good old days" do not really know what it was like. On the flipside, it is not like the current situation was any better. The truth is, there were not any 'good old days' in Iran for anyone who is currently alive, as it has been in a shitty situation since 1909. And Ironically, for the average person, the current government has done much more for them than the previous one, although they will always badmouth it (usually justified however)
    Lol the youth diaspora are completely clueless about Iran, I agree. The current government though is much more totalitarian than what it used to be however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    Yea I would support it. The revolutionary guard needs to be eradicated and the whole system needs modifications. The shah was fine and people were more "free", which is something people feel nostalgic about. Thanks for your support bro, you should visit Iran someday.
    Would love to visit cities like Tabriz and Isfahan. Cities with much culture, history and character.

    I do wonder how Iranians like yourself are treated in the States. Do people believe that it's possible to be an Iranian and American at the same time, despite the political situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hapanuwa View Post
    Would love to visit cities like Tabriz and Isfahan. Cities with much culture, history and character.

    I do wonder how Iranians like yourself are treated in the States. Do people believe that it's possible to be an Iranian and American at the same time, despite the political situation?
    I get treated fine here, its not too bad. Im seen as an Iranian more than anything else. Many people here seem to be against the American governement and favor the Iranian one.
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    I dont support the mullahs. And idk whether the shahs or whatever were better, the iranians know it better than me and any of us. The only thing that i can say is, that western media support antiiranian and mullah opposition groups to weaken mullahs. You dont need to support or like them to understand why they do this: Iran does whatever iran wants to do. Unlike many other (unfortunately sonetimes also turkey, but please dont start its erdogans fault, before him the others were so too)the iranian state are looking after its own interests. Most states of this region do what West wants to do. People think if the mullah regime is overthrown iran wont be confident. But they err. So if the iranians are unhappy about mullahs, its their own issue. But let dont forget, west interfered many times last century and always finally the didnt like how iran developed.
    I am not supporting the mullahs but i hate that they feign that they are just again the regime not again the iranian people. We heard that many times. Iran wont be submissive, but i think they will see that after the mullah era.
    So idk how we came from turkish atheists to iranian issue...

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    A lot of traitor Iranians here like the ones I have met in Canada. Beautiful country with a lot of traitors, at least they let the traitors to go to countries like Canada etc. It's better to send them away.

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