How to know or be sure how much caucasian gens I carry ?...

[Dr_Maul]

How Caucasian am I as a percentage Arab + Indian ?.. any idea

It depends, I guess you are about 80 or 85% Caucasoid + the rest being Australoid or SSA

[Demhat]

Dodecaad K12b gives you around 13% South Asian. It depends how this South Asian is made up but usually in Dodecad it's around 75-80% Iranian_Neolithic derived. East Africa is around 50-60% Caucasian. Northwest African is around 85% Caucasian. So I assume you are around 90% Caucasian.

[Salem523]

Dodecaad K12b gives you around 13% South Asian. It depends how this South Asian is made up but usually in Dodecad it's around 75-80% Iranian_Neolithic derived. East Africa is around 50-60% Caucasian. Northwest African is around 85% Caucasian. So I assume you are around 90% Caucasian.

This is the explanation I was looking for. I was not sure how to analyze the south Asian component and the East African component since both group are mixed with other element e.g caucasoid + Australoid or Negroid.

[Demhat]

This is the explanation I was looking for. I was not sure how to analyze the south Asian component and the East African component since both group are mixed with other element e.g caucasoid + Australoid or Negroid.

South Asian is not predominantly mixed with Australoid though. The non Caucasian part is predominantly Andamanese type.

[Leto]

Dodecad K12b Population Percent
1 Southwest_Asian 33.32
2 Caucasus 20.77
3 South_Asian 12.85
4 Gedrosia 10.54
5 East_African 7.39
6 Atlantic_Med 7.16
7 Northwest_African 5.00
8 Sub_Saharan 1.95

Dodecad World9 and MDLP World would be better.

But on K12b you score almost 13% South Asian which is a lot for a Yemeni.

[Leto]

Dodecaad K12b gives you around 13% South Asian. It depends how this South Asian is made up but usually in Dodecad it's around 75-80% Iranian_Neolithic derived. East Africa is around 50-60% Caucasian. Northwest African is around 85% Caucasian. So I assume you are around 90% Caucasian.

No, on Dodecad K12b the South Asian is around 75-80% non-Caucasoid. And the East African is majority SSA.

[Leto]

K12b:
76.8% Caucasoid

HW:
76.1% Caucasoid

[Demhat]

No, on Dodecad K12b the South Asian is around 75-80% non-Caucasoid. And the East African is majority SSA.

I know what you are referring to
Dienekes gave that description of his calculator out in 2012 when we weren't even close on having Iran mesolithic and neolithic DNA. So he split the the South Asian genes into a ANI and ASI component he even admitted that those were zombie components (not real stabilized yet) and entirely based on the data on hand. ANI compromised allot of DNA that was heavily found in modern people on the Iranian Plateau and Afghanistan and DNA that was brought from the Steppes. ASI was basically a component he considered to be native to South India but that was again speculative. But despite that he did really a fantastic job and managed to isolate alomost every Caucasian DNA in South Asia into the ANI branch and this before we even had ancient Iranian data. But still he missed some percentages.

So when Iranian_mesolithic/neolithic samples arrived, Balochis who previously scored 12% SA on average suddenly ended up with numbers closer to ~8-9%. Compare Dodecad K12b spredsheet with Balochi results from Neolithic Iranian Calculator from Kurd.


And it became obvious that the ASI part actually did include genes that were brought into the sub continent as early as the mesolithic from the Iranian Plateau.

But comparing the spredsheet with the Iranian_Neolithic data you might be correct South Asian of K12b seems to be around 2/3 non Caucasian.

About the East African component. I had a look at the spredsheet and it peaks in Somalis with 70% but some of their Caucasian genes are attributed to the Southwest Asian component. So East African is possibly around 40% Caucasian.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ED2osPs9M/edit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8tBSohISuQ

I might have been slightly wrong with my estimate of 90% But I doubt it's far below 85%.

[Leto]

I know what you are referring to
Dienekes gave that description of his calculator out in 2012 when we weren't even close on having Iran mesolithic and neolithic DNA. He So he split the the South Asian genes into a ANI and ASI component he even admitted that those were zombie components (not real) and entirely based on the data on hand. ANI compromised allot of DNA that was heavily found in modern people on the Iranian Plateau and Afghanistan and DNA that was brought from the Steppes. ASI was basically a component he considered to be native to South India but that was again speculative. But despite that he did really a fantastic job and managed to isolate every Caucasian DNA in South Asia into the ANI branch. But still he missed so percentages.

So when Iranian_mesolithic/neolithic samples arrived, Balochis who previously scored 12% SA on average suddenly ended up with numbers closer to ~8-9%. Compare Dodecad K12b spredsheet with Balochi results from Neolithic Iranian Calculator from Kurd.


And it became obvious that the ASI part actually did include genes that were brought into the sub continent as early as the mesolithic from the Iranian Plateau.

But comparing the spredsheet with the Iranian_Neolithic data you might be correct South Asian of K12b seems to be around 2/3 non Caucasian.

About the East African component. I had a look at the spredsheet and it peaks in Somalis with 70% but some of their Caucasian genes are attributed to the Southwest Asian component. So East African is possibly around 40% Caucasian.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ED2osPs9M/edit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8tBSohISuQ

I might have been slightly wrong with my estimate of 90% But I doubt it's far below 85%.

Good points.
But aren't Somalis like 60+ SSA? I think they are somewhat 'blacker' than Semitic Ethiopians. Northern Ethiopians are more like 50% SSA.
See the Beta Israel academic samples
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...h-Gedmatch-kit

[Demhat]

Good points.
But aren't Somalis like 60+ SSA? I think they are somewhat 'blacker' than Semitic Ethiopians. Northern Ethiopians are more like 50% SSA.
See the Beta Israel academic samples
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...h-Gedmatch-kit

The thing is with ancient Sub Saharan samples we know from the most recent studies at hand that even Sub Saharan African groups that were previously thought to be completely pure, actually have at least around 5-10% Near Eastern Neolithic DNA. I red in some studies that farming in Sub Saharan Africa too can be attributed to actual admixture. Even if it was gradual and diminished from group to group it is still there.

Somali samples varied from 30-60% Caucasian in older Calculators before we knew how much Near Eastern DNA was actually in Africa.

Just remember to add always 5-10% extra Caucasian DNA to anything what appears to be Sub Saharan in previous calculators. And you are safe.