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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Great movie. Are you familiar with the Westies Irish gang of New York? They were so ruthless the Italian mob used them to kill mafia kingpin Paul Castellano in front of a NYC steakhouse in 1985. The last guys I would mess with. The book Westies by T.J. English has some of the best info on the subject.

    Have watched this and also the one JamesBond posted about Mickey Featherstone (interesting that his father's name was actually Boyle and he didn't like having the name Featherstone). Anyway Cooney and Featherstone were some tough MFs. They were truly psychopaths. Interesting that Featherstone got Witness Protection. Thanks for posting doco and now I'd love to read a book about these characters. The cop said that they both looked like choirboys. Just shows how looks can be deceiving.

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    Jeffrey Epstein and his organized sex trafficking? Considering how many people must have been involved in it, it could be considered organized crime. I just finished the documentary on Netflix, I was happy that the victims got the opportunity to tell their story. It's just beyond me how sick people can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hithaeglir View Post
    Jeffrey Epstein and his organized sex trafficking? Considering how many people must have been involved in it, it could be considered organized crime. I just finished the documentary on Netflix, I was happy that the victims got the opportunity to tell their story. It's just beyond me how sick people can be.
    I'm planning on watching that also. The thing about Jeffrey Epstein was all the rich and famous he knew. Most of the gangster types were working class boys (funny how they were all mostly Catholics as well but I guess being mostly Italian, Irish, Polish etc accounts for that ). Jeffrey Epstein mixed with all the most powerful people so you wonder how much a lot of these people knew? Don't know if the program goes into any of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    I'm planning on watching that also. The thing about Jeffrey Epstein was all the rich and famous he knew. Most of the gangster types were working class boys (funny how they were all mostly Catholics as well but I guess being mostly Italian, Irish, Polish etc accounts for that ). Jeffrey Epstein mixed with all the most powerful people so you wonder how much a lot of these people knew? Don't know if the program goes into any of that?
    Yeah they make some mentions to his entourage like Bill Clinton, Trump (not surprised ), Weinstein (again not surprised) and Woody Allen, but they don't directly accuse them of anything. They also don't make statements in the documentary themselves exept his ex attorney Alan Dershowitz that declines any involvement. Direct accusation is made by a victim to prince Andrew. Bleh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Have watched this and also the one JamesBond posted about Mickey Featherstone (interesting that his father's name was actually Boyle and he didn't like having the name Featherstone). Anyway Cooney and Featherstone were some tough MFs. They were truly psychopaths. Interesting that Featherstone got Witness Protection. Thanks for posting doco and now I'd love to read a book about these characters. The cop said that they both looked like choirboys. Just shows how looks can be deceiving.
    Yeah, the TJ English book is better than those docs, I highly recommend it: https://www.amazon.com/Westies-Insid.../dp/0312362846

    My Irish family was more the do-gooder Catholic type so it's interesting to see this side of Irish-American culture, although it is hardly mainstream

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    Mickey Spillane in this picture looks a bit like Cillian Murphy who play Thomas Shelby in Peaky Blinders.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Yeah, the TJ English book is better than those docs, I highly recommend it: https://www.amazon.com/Westies-Insid.../dp/0312362846

    My Irish family was more the do-gooder Catholic type so it's interesting to see this side of Irish-American culture, although it is hardly mainstream
    Yes my family also. We had no crims or anyone controversial in our family. Very typical Irish Catholics who worked hard and very law abiding. Yes it is interesting seeing these gangster Irish men. There is quite a problem with gangsters in Ireland. They are quite ruthless as well.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36140840

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