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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    Tiznit Samples have higher SSA + Iberomaurusian.

    Try this one:

    Saami:GS000035025,0.103579,-0.04773,0.121433,0.083657,-0.018773,0.007251,0.005405,0.011307,0.00225,-0.033896,0.028093,-0.008243,0.021853,-0.017065,-0.008143,-0.008353,-0.015646,0.00114,-0.002137,-5e-04,0.019341,-0.003462,-0.006655,-0.001325,0.001557
    Saami:GS000035026,0.112685,-0.019295,0.112759,0.077197,0.000615,0.003068,0.009 4,0.010615,0.007976,-0.032438,0.022572,-0.007194,0.016799,-0.018166,-0.007872,0.005569,0.011343,0.001267,-0.005154,0.006003,0.020713,0.001607,-0.002711,-0.000723,0.000239
    Saami:Saami001,0.118376,-0.005078,0.10484,0.077197,-0.001846,0.011156,0.01034,0.013615,-0.002045,-0.032985,0.018837,-0.008692,0.021407,-0.007432,-0.003664,-0.003182,-0.005476,-0.002154,-0.005028,0.008754,0.019466,0.000989,-0.008011,0.003615,-0.003712
    Moroccan_North:MCH11,-0.017073,0.142174,0.004903,-0.060078,0.030775,-0.028726,-0.042067,0.009,0.062175,0.045012,0.001299,-0.008243,0.02334,-0.016102,0.016965,-0.014054,-0.006258,-0.009755,-0.050908,0.014882,-0.013102,-0.029924,0.017501,-0.011568,0.005269
    Moroccan_North:MCH12,-0.033009,0.139128,0.00528,-0.066538,0.042777,-0.039602,-0.029376,0.005538,0.068515,0.025695,0.010068,-0.01124,0.030029,-0.005367,0.021715,-0.016971,-0.002738,-0.016723,-0.040223,0.011005,-0.019965,-0.041671,0.028593,-0.012773,0.002155
    Moroccan_North:MCH13,-0.013659,0.129988,-0.001508,-0.062016,0.01908,-0.035419,-0.017391,0.006923,0.070356,0.044466,-0.006171,-0.001199,0.018731,-0.01968,0.002036,-0.017237,-0.004563,-0.025211,-0.048394,0.005628,-0.009982,-0.035117,0.027484,-0.008917,0.005389
    Moroccan_North:MCH16,-0.028456,0.137096,-0.004525,-0.064923,0.028928,-0.032351,-0.024441,0.014538,0.070561,0.026789,0.020948,0.002 398,0.010704,-0.020643,0.019001,-0.030893,-0.009909,-0.029138,-0.047011,0.004377,-0.011729,-0.044268,0.027484,-0.001687,0.001317
    Moroccan_North:MCH18,-0.034147,0.135065,0.009051,-0.062339,0.026159,-0.032351,-0.029376,0.007154,0.069743,0.035172,0.004547,-0.006145,0.016501,-0.018854,0.028501,-0.012861,0.005476,-0.014569,-0.041103,0.01113,-0.007986,-0.024854,0.024773,-0.001687,0.006945
    Moroccan_North:MCH7,-0.035285,0.135065,0.007165,-0.069122,0.03139,-0.024263,-0.020446,0.009461,0.06872,0.030798,0.005684,-0.004046,0.022448,-0.024084,0.019544,-0.003315,-0.002738,-0.023437,-0.049902,0.002501,-0.021961,-0.037714,0.023417,-0.007953,0.023231
    Moroccan_North:MCH8,-0.033009,0.133034,0.001131,-0.053941,0.034468,-0.029005,-0.036427,0.006923,0.059721,0.041003,0.011692,-0.004196,0.019475,-0.021056,0.020901,0.004508,0.013169,-0.028378,-0.046005,0.01138,-0.013601,-0.035736,0.024033,0.000482,-0.000599
    Moroccan_North:MCH9,-0.022765,0.136081,0.00528,-0.061047,0.042162,-0.026495,-0.021151,0.007846,0.06463,0.045377,-0.003248,-0.010191,0.023934,-0.020368,0.021851,-0.004243,0.007562,-0.023691,-0.043114,0.00988,-0.009982,-0.035117,0.020459,-0.007471,0.002874
    Moroccan_North:MNA1,-0.020488,0.131003,0.002263,-0.070737,0.02462,-0.034582,-0.025851,-0.003923,0.06238,0.027518,0.003085,-0.008992,0.023191,-0.007707,0.009093,-0.016176,0.00339,-0.019763,-0.04412,0.007879,-0.009358,-0.032397,0.017871,-0.001325,-0.000479
    Moroccan_North:MNA3,-0.003415,0.135065,-0.001886,-0.072675,0.034468,-0.023985,-0.019976,0.001846,0.063811,0.02934,0.00682,0.00314 7,0.013379,-0.01101,0.019001,-0.005304,0.005998,-0.024198,-0.034944,0.008754,-0.018093,-0.035859,0.026005,-0.006627,0.003832
    Moroccan_North:MNA4,-0.020488,0.147252,-0.006411,-0.057171,0.032314,-0.034025,-0.021621,0.007154,0.053381,0.031162,-0.000162,-0.014387,0.01219,-0.009358,0.008007,-0.005701,-0.007041,-0.012796,-0.039343,0.006128,-0.023084,-0.039322,0.018857,-0.00735,0.008263
    Moroccan_North:MNA6,-0.017073,0.142174,-0.006788,-0.078166,0.025235,-0.033188,-0.017626,-0.002769,0.062584,0.036994,-0.000487,-0.003897,0.01219,-0.02257,0.009636,-0.0118,0.007562,-0.024198,-0.036704,0.016008,-0.015847,-0.040311,0.02428,-0.010724,0.00455
    Moroccan_North:MNA8,-0.05805,0.142174,-0.010182,-0.077843,0.024004,-0.032351,-0.019506,-0.002077,0.050722,0.030798,0.017538,-0.013338,0.016055,-0.011285,0.018594,-0.010607,-0.012908,-0.004941,-0.031299,0.016133,-0.003619,-0.027451,0.01368,-0.009399,-0.002754
    on the other thread they are almost all closer to north moroccans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    on the other thread they are almost all closer to north moroccans
    Better choose more representative ones to equilibrate more both number of samples, same that in Spaniard calculator, your sources have 3 Saami and 13 NA and mixed with other Moroccan sources also from the South, and we will have a better calculator.

    Most likely we will tend towards 50%/50% of both in Western South Europe and 40%/60% in North Europe , and distances between 2 groups would be less than 2%(0.02 in difference).

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    Target: Pedro_scaled
    Distance: 13.4793% / 0.13479263
    50.2 Saami
    49.8 Berber_MAR_ERR

    Distance to: Pedro_scaled
    0.21962047 Saami
    0.22095701 Berber_MAR_ERR
    0.22095701 Berber_MAR_ERR
    0.23929847 Berber_MAR_TIZ
    0.23929847 Berber_MAR_TIZ
    Target: Pedro_scaled
    Distance: 0.6354% / 0.00635357
    54.2% Iberia
    21.6% Scotland
    12.4% North Africa (Tunisian Berber)
    8.6% Italia (Lazio)
    2.4% West Africa (Gambian)
    0.8% South America (Amerindian Caribe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Better choose more representative ones to equilibrate more both number of samples, same that in Spaniard calculator, your sources have 3 Saami and 13 NA and mixed with other Moroccan sources also from the South, and we will have a better calculator.

    Most likely we will tend towards 50%/50% of both in Western South Europe and 40%/60% in North Europe , and distances between 2 groups would be less than 2%(0.02 in difference).
    Saamis are a much smaller group than berbers. You can't really compare a berber from southern algeria with 40% ssa to a riffian for example (btw most "berbers" lived along the shores of the med sea so it's fair to take them as a reference) so yes take 30 riffians and 30 saami if you want it to be accurate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    Saamis are a much smaller group than berbers. You can't really compare a berber from southern algeria with 40% ssa to a riffian for example (btw most "berbers" lived along the shores of the med sea so it's fair to take them as a reference) so yes take 30 riffians and 30 saami if you want it to be accurate
    I know, this is why I said that you have to add not only North Morocco samples, or put less distance samples of Morocco and put more on average samples of this country.

    We compare distances between Morocco and Saami, not between North Moroccans and Saami. So we must samples form all Morocco, not 14 samples only for North Morocco...

    But we can see that averages and distances aproximately would be as I said in the other post.

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    Are the morisco samples available on G25?

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    Code:
    Distance to:	PT_Tagus_scaled
    0.22120783	Berber_MAR_ERR
    0.22120783	Berber_MAR_ERR
    0.23105945	Saami
    0.23998661	Berber_MAR_TIZ
    0.23998661	Berber_MAR_TIZ

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    Target: Lukasz_scaled
    Distance: 16.5467% / 0.16546666
    73.8 Saami
    26.2 Berber_MAR_ERR
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    Distance to: Thambi_scaled
    0.32208368 Saami
    0.38282505 Berber_MAR_ERR
    0.38282505 Berber_MAR_ERR
    0.39688413 Berber_MAR_TIZ
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    68.6 Saami
    31.4 Berber_MAR_ERR

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