R1a-z93 in Kyrgyz people. Explanation?

**aklifal** · 04-30-2020, 02:57 AM

no relation to indo-gypsies.

**Dr_Maul** · 04-30-2020, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by Tanais

No, 666. Lol.

Why not? Their primary maternal haplogroups are East Asian (like D) so it makes sense that they would be East Asian/mongolic maternally and Tocharian paternally. Outside of their main haplogroups they also have a bunch of mtdna groups at 2-3% indicating that maternally they are primarily East Asian but also with extreme diversity maternally however paternally not diverse (Founder effect) And we know Tocharians who were Indo European therefore R1 also lived there, so combine that with the founder effect and it’s possible

**Tanais** · 04-30-2020, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Why not? Their primary maternal haplogroups are East Asian (like D) so it makes sense that they would be East Asian/mongolic maternally and Tocharian paternally. Outside of their main haplogroups they also have a bunch of mtdna groups at 2-3% indicating that maternally they are primarily East Asian but also with extreme diversity maternally however paternally not diverse (Founder effect) And we know Tocharians who were Indo European therefore R1 also lived there, so combine that with the founder effect and it’s possible

Not possible because R is mongoloid.

**Dr_Maul** · 04-30-2020, 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by Tanais

Not possible because R is mongoloid.

via GIPHY

**Sarmatian** · 04-30-2020, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by Tanais

Not possible because R is mongoloid.

No more shrooms for that one, he had enough

**Arhat** · 04-30-2020, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by Tanais

Cry me a river you irano-centrist nationalists! Cry, cry as much as you can for your Turkic Steppe_MLBA daddy!

Nice greetings from Nepalese Mongoloids

Oh, this was so good.

Anyone thiking R1a is from Turks or Mongolids needs to go to a doctor. R1a was found in Mesolithic Ukraine and Russia with zero East Asian admix. And Z93 in Sintashta with zero asian admix and was a copy of Corded Ware

**Tanais** · 05-02-2020, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by Arhat

Anyone thiking R1a is from Turks or Mongolids needs to go to a doctor. R1a was found in Mesolithic Ukraine and Russia with zero East Asian admix. And Z93 in Sintashta with zero asian admix and was a copy of Corded Ware

R being Mongoloid was actually a provocative joke. They were just Turks. Are you fine with that? But you have to admit Nepal is a great Mongol country though.

**Tanais** · 05-02-2020, 08:14 AM

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**~~gixajo~~** · 05-02-2020, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

Does anybody have an explanation for it?

Sorry, your paternal line is from Azerbaidjan or from Germany?

**SG_Jun** · 05-02-2020, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Why not? Their primary maternal haplogroups are East Asian (like D) so it makes sense that they would be East Asian/mongolic maternally and Tocharian paternally. Outside of their main haplogroups they also have a bunch of mtdna groups at 2-3% indicating that maternally they are primarily East Asian but also with extreme diversity maternally however paternally not diverse (Founder effect) And we know Tocharians who were Indo European therefore R1 also lived there, so combine that with the founder effect and it’s possible

If I'm not mistaken, Tocharians are actually R1b, not R1a. I think there is a greater possibility of them being Iranian/Scythian rather than Tocharian.