It's confirmed: I am a direct lineage descendant of Árpád, Grand Prince of the Magyars!

[Matty74]

My Norwegian great-aunt said that we're descended from Harald the Fairhair. I don't believe one word of that.

[Satem]

You are allowed to Stears nobility club

[TheMaestro]

Yeeey, that’s cool.

[Blondie]

I remember when you claimed you're descedant of Charlemagne too

[Dunai]

I remember when you claimed you're descedant of Charlemagne too

That announcement was based on raw data, but since then I managed to corroborate the initial finds, and actually have found many lineages that go back to him. Most lineages lead back to Charlemagne, but only a few to Árpád

[Dunai]

My Norwegian great-aunt said that we're descended from Harald the Fairhair. I don't believe one word of that.

I just made a small check about him and he seems like a problematic character, if he even exited at all. In my own research I always left out individuals who have questionable identity or relatedness with others. Interestingly I actually did find some legendary Vikings in my lineage, who are certifiable, with Rollo the Norman himself.

[Turul Karom]

....and there are those who say that the connections with the Turkic Hungarian conquering population couldn't possibly exist.

What are they to say now?

Congratulations, and live your heritage with pride.

[Dunai]

....and there are those who say that the connections with the Turkic Hungarian conquering population couldn't possibly exist.

What are they to say now?

Congratulations, and live your heritage with pride.

I have a hunch most of today's Hungarian population is a little bit related to Árpádian Magyars, however this is very hard to prove based on strictly Hungarian lineages, as at some point (around 17th century if you are that lucky to get there) the birth registers end, and from then on you can only go a few more centuries back if you find nobility, and even then traditional Hungarian noble families run out of registers and documents in the Middle Ages (or they present gaps between exact paternal and maternal relationships). Therefore your best chance as a Hungarian, is if you find some Western ancestor and then you can trace that person's ancestors to around years 1000-1200, and then only maybe, if your are really lucky, you will have some German, Italian, French nobility who married into the Árpád-House, because usually they documented the best, birth dates and kinship relationships in the Medieval Age. I already seen some Hungarian family trees that managed to impressively go back to 13-14th century Hungarian nobility, but I haven't seen yet any family tree to claim they are direct descendants of Árpád. Maybe I haven't searched enough.

[Turul Karom]

I have a hunch most of today's Hungarian population is a little bit related to Árpádian Magyars, however this is very hard to prove based on strictly Hungarian lineages, as at some point (around 17th century if you are that lucky to get there) the birth registers end, and from then on you can only go a few more centuries back if you find nobility, and even then traditional Hungarian noble families run out of registers and documents in the Middle Ages (or they present gaps between exact paternal and maternal relationships). Therefore your best chance as a Hungarian, is if you find some Western ancestor and then you can trace that person's ancestors to around years 1000-1200, and then only maybe, if your are really lucky, you will have some German, Italian, French nobility who married into the Árpád-House, because usually they documented the best, birth dates and kinship relationships in the Medieval Age. I already seen some Hungarian family trees that managed to impressively go back to 13-14th century Hungarian nobility, but I haven't seen yet any family tree to claim they are direct descendants of Árpád. Maybe I haven't searched enough.

Very cool indeed!

This descent form the conquering Hungarians, even in part, has been proven time and time again by genetic studies for the larger population, and I am therefore not surprised. Árpád dynasty descent or other arriving Hungarian clan leader descent is harder to prove.

Also, you are not a direct descent (as in from Árpád unbroken male line or wife unbroken mtDNA line), right? You would need a direct Y or mtDNA that matches his. You are a part of a cadet Árpádian branch, who married into European royalty yes? Or am I not understanding something? That is what I thought "direct line" means when it comes to Y DNA and mtDNA.

I would think that if anyone could prove their ancestry, it would be from the cadet Árpád branches who have married into the European nobility for hundreds of years. That, or until we can do deeper Y DNA and mtDNA searches for more of the Árpádian kings and queens.

I'd suggest considering putting together an official paper trail with certificates from genealogists so you can have as much proof possible to show your children and future family.

I don't believe I would be able to duplicate this, because as far as I'm aware, my family in both Transylvania and Western Hungary has always been from the peasantry. I plan to dive deeper at some point, maybe with some professional help, because all I have currently are records from the early 1800s, and we are all still in our respective areas in Hungary.

[Turul Karom]

Double post.

Have a song!