Turkic names of the Huns

[TheMaestro]

Last time I checked most people would consider most Turkics "white".

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ctor-dietitian

But I don't think it matters because being "white" has become to culturally associated with anti-Islam (and no, I am not a Muslim). Things is, if 70+% of Anatolian Turks today didn't speak Turkish and were born a little more west but looked identical and were either agnostic of Christians, they'd be welcome into the fold like anyone else. Ironic since so many people call them assimilated Byzantines which would make them defacto "white" anyway.

Regardless, I match one Hun grave and three conquering Hungarian graves, and that's just what we have so far.

We saw your results white boi. Turks are Eurasians mutts, they are not white and noone considers them as white. White is being European. Why are you not sleeping boi? Menj aludni angyal

[Turul Karom]

We saw your results white boi. Turks are Eurasians mutts, they are not white and noone considers them as white. White is being European. Why are you not sleeping boi? Menj aludni angyal

What results?

Also "Eurasians" in your context could mean the child of a Frenchman and a Japanese woman.

I guess you wouldn't have considered the Byzantines, Armenians, Georgians, Lezgans, Ossetians, Avars, etc, white either?



You and I both know it comes down to religious differences and that's it, but the desire for bantz is too strong.

As for Hungarians, we are European when convenient and "the other" when not, as it was after WW1 which was made so explicitly clear, when even Austria took Hungarian territory.

"reminiscing over Hungary's punishment at the Paris Peace Conference, the British diplomat Harold Nicolson noted: "I confess that I regarded, and still regard,that Turanian tribe with acute distaste. Like their cousins the Turks, they had destroyed much and created nothing." This Allied participant at the Paris Peace Conference did more than just express his unflattering opinion of the Hungarian people. He captured the biased political atmosphere of the international setting in which the historical Hungarian state met its death."

Source: (32) Borsody, op. cit., pp. 26-27.

[itilvolga]

Some (not exhaustive list) of Hungarian names commonly used today that are Turkic:

ÁKOS
ÁLMOS
CSONGOR
GÉZA
GYÖNGYI
GYULA
KÁLMÁN
ZSOMBOR

The clearest one is Csongor, which means Sungur (hunting/wild bird) in Turkish

[Turul Karom]

The clearest one is Csongor, which means Sungur (hunting/wild bird) in Turkish

Naturally, and all of the Hungarian leaders had Turkic names, as were the names of the Hungarian tribes.

We are family forever.

Good brotherly speech at 7:57 in video, though it is all good to watch!

[Zoro]

The old word of Čop/šop (related to the English Sheep) meant Sheep. and the suffix of -ban still means keeper. thus Šoban means Shepherd in Persian (Persian means Avestan Language).

Don’t know about Avestan but shepherd is Shivaan in kurdish. Paz is sheep in kurdish, psa in pashto

[Demhat]

Don’t know about Avestan but shepherd is Shivaan in kurdish. Paz is sheep in kurdish, psa in pashto

Shivan and coban have the same root.

[Kökény]

Hungarian given names of Turkic origin are also popular among Szekelys, I think even more so than in Hungary. From Turul's list Zsombor and Csongor are definitely popular as well as Csaba, since Prince Csaba is considered our national hero. Honorary mentions are Árpád and Attila.

Interestingly there's one name that is quite rare in Hungary, or at least I haven't met anybody with this name yet, but really common among my folk, that is Alpár. It's meaning is 'heroic man'.

Another one would be Kadicsa, though in this form it's not used, but as Kadocsa/Kadosa. According to Wikipedia the root is old Turkic qadiça or qaduça.

[Kaspias]

Didn’t know that, mine was a wild guess since the word is in Turkic languages for a long time.

It is not Çoban but Çolpan. Means "god of the sky" and "brightest" in Altai mythology. At the same time it believed that he is a shepherd who live on the mountains to be closer to sky, so they used it for shepherd too, and replaced with Çoban after interaction with Farsi.

Modern usage of it in Turkish is Çoban Yıldızı, and Sulban in Mongolian.

[itilvolga]

It is not Çoban but Çolpan. Means "god of the sky" and "brightest" in Altai mythology. At the same time it believed that he is a shepherd who live on the mountains to be closer to sky, so they used it for shepherd too, and replaced with Çoban after interaction with Farsi.

Modern usage of it in Turkish is Çoban Yıldızı, and Sulban in Mongolian.

Of course I knew the Çolpan, but I didn’t know it was also used for the word shepherd. I saw in an article that Tuna-Bolgars used Çoban in a sentence so I thought maybe Persians took it from their Turkic neighbors

The article is: http://yunus.hacettepe.edu.tr/~emine...lmazkbol12.pdf (page 4)

[itilvolga]

Hungarian given names of Turkic origin are also popular among Szekelys, I think even more so than in Hungary. From Turul's list Zsombor and Csongor are definitely popular as well as Csaba, since Prince Csaba is considered our national hero. Honorary mentions are Árpád and Attila.

Interestingly there's one name that is quite rare in Hungary, or at least I haven't met anybody with this name yet, but really common among my folk, that is Alpár. It's meaning is 'heroic man'.

Another one would be Kadicsa, though in this form it's not used, but as Kadocsa/Kadosa. According to Wikipedia the root is old Turkic qadiça or qaduça.

Alpár is Alper in Turkish with the same meaning. Alp(heroic) + er(man).