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    Quote Originally Posted by Nykyus View Post
    I know that the expansion of Islam was opposed by a female ruler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihya.
    In Aksum (Ethiopia), on the contrary, a female ruler exterminated Christians. She was of the Jewish faith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gudit.
    Muslims did not try to conquer Ethiopia, because the prophet Muhammad bequeathed not to touch. Because King Aksum granted refuge to Muhammad from persecution
    Umar did sent a naval expidition to Axum but was defeated. Also the Christian Nubians defeated Arab invadors twice under the Rashiduns and failed to conquor rest of NE Africa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    Umar did sent a naval expidition to Axum but was defeated. Also the Christian Nubians defeated Arab invadors twice under the Rashiduns and failed to conquor rest of NE Africa
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    It's not in North Africa, but it's still in Africa. Ethiopia's Stone Churches - One of the Wonders of the Christian World!
    Constructed by King lalebela in the middle ages

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    Ethiopians deserve western admiration.......the very first converted (also germanic goths and armenians ) to Jesus and nothing changed them....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Through violence and conquest, as is usual with Islamic expansion. By the sword and coercion. Non-voluntary. Massacres and enslavement.
    even if there indeed was an Arabs/Umayyad invasion i suggest you should read my post

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    Quote Originally Posted by dark-mysterio View Post
    even if there indeed was an Arabs/Umayyad invasion i suggest you should read my post
    I find that hard to believe, it sounds like regular Muslim propaganda to me. Muslims have a habit of stretching the truth in their favour, I have come to realise.
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    The reason why North Africa became 100 percent Muslim was the complete lack of monastic tradition and the linked social communal relationship between the people and those communities. Compare this with Egypt or the Levant. That way and through demographics (Muslims had more children than Christians) the Christian population in N. Africa disappeared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Div View Post
    The reason why North Africa became 100 percent Muslim was the complete lack of monastic tradition and the linked social communal relationship between the people and those communities. Compare this with Egypt or the Levant. That way and through demographics (Muslims had more children than Christians) the Christian population in N. Africa disappeared.
    Actually there was a monastic tradition but it was inequally reparted in North africa and there were still many christian communities during the XIth century but almoravids and especially almohads put an end to this forcing every non-muslim to convert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    Actually there was a monastic tradition but it was inequally reparted in North africa and there were still many christian communities during the XIth century but almoravids and especially almohads put an end to this forcing every non-muslim to convert
    Could you show some texts relating to this, or some monastic ruins. because when I researched it I found no Byzantine or Latin rite monasteries in N. Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Div View Post
    Could you show some texts relating to this, or some monastic ruins. because when I researched it I found no Byzantine or Latin rite monasteries in N. Africa.
    I'm not a specialist but does an Episcopal see counts ? if yes then I translated this :

    But various overlaps allow us to affirm that Christian Africa "filled up" with its episcopate before the end of the 4th century: more than five hundred episcopal seats, from the shores of the Great Syrte in the east to the borders of the Tingitane to the west (the latter province, present-day northern Morocco, being in Late Antiquity attached to Spain).
    from here : https://journals.openedition.org/enc...ieberbere/2276

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    Only the big cities had Christianity (like Tunis and Tanger), the majority of North Africans were pagans (which is why berber pagan tradition still exists today). Old remains of churches are only found in those big urbanized cities, some pagans even existed not even 100 years ago like the Zekara tribe (which is related to the Zenati Iznasn tribe), last century the tribe was fully pagan and they only became muslim after French occupation).
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    Omek tannou or Oumouk tangou is an ancient Tunisian tradition of invocation of the rain which was inherited from the Punic and Berber tradition. It has practically disappeared nowadays.

    It is manifested in the form of a statue head of a woman similar to girls' dolls. The children walk her between the houses during a drought while singing "Oumouk tango, O women, ask God to rain" (أمك طانقو يا نساء طلبت ربي عالشتاء). This song varies according to the region because the term chta designates rain only in certain urban cities. Each housewife then pours a little water on the statuette believing that it will bring rain.

    In some rural cities, a stick is used, instead of the doll, to which each woman attaches a piece of clothing and gives some Barley to the children who go away singing "Bouktambou" [Oumouk tangou deformation] give us barley, your container will be filled from the water sources (يا بو قطمبو أعطينا شعير يملا قدحكم مالغدير).[1]
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    N.B. 'Omek Tangou' is a rendering of the old North African goddess Tanit who was identified with Venus. The earliest stylized depiction of a female hand with an eye (called the Hamsa, hand of Fatima, hand of Maryam, or Buri Nazar Hindi-Urdu ''bad gaze" ~ '[defense against] the evil eye') originated with Her.


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