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    Post Hittite GEDmatch results (1750 BC)

    He was from Central Anatolia (Kaman Kalehöyük/Kırşehir)

    Kit Number: Z020190

    PuntDNAL K12
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    For comparison, a Turk from the very place the Hittite sample is from (Kaman/Kırşehir)

    puntDNAL K12 modern
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    MDLP K23b
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    Looks like that Hittites were genitically the same like cypriots/levantines with visible caucasian influence. Non Indoeuropean influence. Even modern Turks are more „european“

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    A high quality sample

    Dodecad K12b

    Population
    Gedrosia 5.28 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 1.31 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 22.47 Pct
    North_European -
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 14.48 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 56.18 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.30 Pct

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    Population
    S-Indian -
    Baloch 7.88 Pct
    Caucasian 54.01 Pct
    NE-Euro -
    SE-Asian -
    Siberian -
    NE-Asian -
    Papuan -
    American -
    Beringian -
    Mediterranean 22.07 Pct
    SW-Asian 15.48 Pct
    San -
    E-African -
    Pygmy -
    W-African 0.56 Pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    A high quality sample

    Dodecad K12b

    Population
    Gedrosia 5.28 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 1.31 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 22.47 Pct
    North_European -
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 14.48 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 56.18 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.30 Pct

    HarappaWorld

    Population
    S-Indian -
    Baloch 7.88 Pct
    Caucasian 54.01 Pct
    NE-Euro -
    SE-Asian -
    Siberian -
    NE-Asian -
    Papuan -
    American -
    Beringian -
    Mediterranean 22.07 Pct
    SW-Asian 15.48 Pct
    San -
    E-African -
    Pygmy -
    W-African 0.56 Pct
    This one is more Caucasian shifted, like today Laz/Georgian with SW-Asian influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    Looks like that Hittites were genitically the same like cypriots/levantines with visible caucasian influence. Non Indoeuropean influence. Even modern Turks are more „european“
    There seems to be 3-4% European influence in him. in modern day Anatolian Greeks the rate is around 3-7% as well. Small but visible influence. Modern Turks' European heritage (7-15%) is more visible most likely due to Scythian heritage.

    And I'd not call Hittites being same as Cypriots. It's the other way around most likely. Cypriots are most likely hellenized Hittites.

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    LOL, not very indo-european...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudayar View Post
    There seems to be 3-4% European influence in him. in modern day Anatolian Greeks the rate is around 3-7% as well. Small but visible influence. Modern Turks' European heritage (7-15%) is more visible most likely due to Scythian heritage.

    And I'd not call Hittites being same as Cypriots. It's the other way around most likely. Cypriots are most likely hellenized Hittites.
    Yes i think the european genes came from Turkic part.

    Youre right, lets say prehellenuc cypriots. Also i would say ancient anatolian could differ from regional placements, i mean northen one could score more caucasian and southern one more near eastern, isnt it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudayar View Post
    There seems to be 3-4% European influence in him. in modern day Anatolian Greeks the rate is around 3-7% as well. Small but visible influence. Modern Turks' European heritage (7-15%) is more visible most likely due to Scythian heritage.
    Can you post the Turk's Dodecad & Harappa the way I posted the Hittite's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Can you post the Turk's Dodecad & Harappa the way I posted the Hittite's?
    Turk from Kaman:


    Dodecad K12b
    Population
    1 Caucasus 33.03
    2 Gedrosia 15.72
    3 Atlantic_Med 13.02
    4 Southwest_Asian 11.47
    5 North_European 11.19
    6 East_Asian 8.95
    7 Siberian 4.54
    8 Northwest_African 1.42
    9 South_Asian 0.65


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    Population
    1 Caucasian 34.89
    2 Baloch 15.21
    3 Mediterranean 12.67
    4 NE-Euro 11.29
    5 SW-Asian 10.69
    6 NE-Asian 7.87
    7 Siberian 5.28
    8 S-Indian 0.86
    9 American 0.79
    10 Beringian 0.36
    11 San 0.08

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