Do Germans look more like Irish or Poles?

[Septentrion]

Agreed. The high dolicephaly in Brits is derived by Atlantid and Keltic, while Germany will still have a lot of individuals of Troender, Hallstatt etc. but there is a strong of Subnordid and other Centraleuro phenos.

Germans are a lot more CM, they don’t have more Nordids (Hallstatt/Keltic) than the English for example, as well Tronder/Anglo-Saxon phenotypes are much more common among the English. Among Germans is a stronger CM-influenced Nordid strain ( Dalofaelid), as well the Borreby which is more dominant and as you said a good frequency of Subnordid ( Nordid - Alpinid mix). Germans also as a whole tend towards brachycephaly but aren’t truly so.

[Immanenz]

I am not! I am just stating facts.

Facts like Belgium is 60 % Keltic Nordid? lol

[Immanenz]

Germans are a lot more CM, they don’t have more Nordids (Hallstatt/Keltic) than the English for example, as well Tronder/Anglo-Saxon phenotypes are much more common among the English. Among Germans is a stronger CM-influenced Nordid strain ( Dalofaelid), as well the Borreby which is more dominant and as you said a good frequency of Subnordid ( Nordid - Alpinid mix). Germans also as a whole tend towards brachycephaly but aren’t truly so.

You ll still find more Hallstatt in Germany than in Britain. Keltic Nordid is an altered Nordid, going by your comments on the Keltic Nordid section, you count even Atlantids or Atlantid with a Keltic admix as pure KN which is not the case

[chociprasa]

You ll still find more Hallstatt in Germany than in Britain. Keltic Nordid is an altered Nordid, going by your comments on the Keltic Nordid section, you count even Atlantids or Atlantid with a Keltic admix as pure KN which is not the case

I don't know about that. I haven't really seen a good Hallstatt example (or a Trønder one for that matter either) from outside of Scandinavia. There are Cordeds and KNs in Germany, but when I've been travelling around in the German-speaking countries and Benelux, I never saw a good HN example.

[Immanenz]

I don't know about that. I haven't really seen a good Hallstatt example (or a Trønder one for that matter either) from outside of Scandinavia. There are Cordeds and KNs in Germany, but when I've been travelling around in the German-speaking countries and Benelux, I never saw a good HN example.

Louis Hoffmann and Bianca Kappler to name two Hallstatts. Obviously they differ and there is a difference between "looking Scando" and being metrically Hallstatt. if you are searching for Max von Sydow Doppelgangers you wont find many, true that (even though he is Corded).

[Septentrion]

You ll still find more Hallstatt in Germany than in Britain. Keltic Nordid is an altered Nordid, going by your comments on the Keltic Nordid section, you count even Atlantids or Atlantid with a Keltic admix as pure KN which is not the case

No. You are the one showing bias now. Britain is still overall more Nordid race than Germany anthropologically. Eastern England has more Hallstatt Nordids than Germany. The German Borreby and Dalofaelid influences are say too strong. This was acknowledged by even more German-biased people than you, the Nazis. Coon, Gunther, Lundman also recognized that fact. Coon goes even further to say, I quote,
«To summarize the data on the physical anthropology of Germany it seems necessary to stress the relative absence of conventional Nordics comparable to those found in eastern Norway, in Sweden, and in England. Such Nordics may be seen almost everywhere in Germany as individuals, but nowhere as a large element in the population.»

The Keltic Nordic is a special Nordid type which deviates from the classical Nordid type, but is not anywhere «less Nordid» than any other types. It’s origins are shared with the Hallstatt. It’s complexion is quite Nordid (pale white skin, often freckled).

[Immanenz]

No. You are the one showing bias now. Britain is still overall more Nordid race than Germany anthropologically. Eastern England has more Hallstatt Nordids than Germany. The German Borreby and Dalofaelid influences are say too strong. This was acknowledged by even more German-biased people than you, the Nazis. Coon, Gunther, Lundman also recognized that fact. Coon goes even further to say, I quote,
«To summarize the data on the physical anthropology of Germany it seems necessary to stress the relative absence of conventional Nordics comparable to those found in eastern Norway, in Sweden, and in England. Such Nordics may be seen almost everywhere in Germany as individuals, but nowhere as a large element in the population.»

The Keltic Nordic is a special Nordid type which deviates from the classical Nordid type, but is not anywhere «less Nordid» than any other types. It’s origins are shared with the Hallstatt. It’s complexion is quite Nordid (pale white skin, often freckled).

Its a Nordid altered by other influences (Baskid/Atlantid as the most likely)- its not Nordid proper. Also you classified Cobie Smulders as KN- i m not even sure if you know how they look like.
The question whetever Atlantid is more Nordic than Faelid and Borreby is a high theoritical one, but the latter are Cm - Nordid mix, pretty common in other germanic countries, not too uncommon in Britain as well.

Btw i never claimed that Germany can be compared to Scandinavia regarding Nordid proper types, this would be nonsense

[Roy]

Tough question but maybe

West Germans: Irish
East Germans: Poles

It's a nice way of coming across with an answer, my kind of compromise.

[Septentrion]

Its a Nordid altered by other influences (Baskid/Atlantid as the most likely)- its not Nordid proper. Also you classified Cobie Smulders as KN- i m not even sure if you know how they look like.
The question whetever Atlantid is more Nordic than Faelid and Borreby is a high theoritical one, but the latter are Cm - Nordid mix, pretty common in other germanic countries, not too uncommon in Britain as well.

Btw i never claimed that Germany can be compared to Scandinavia regarding Nordid proper types, this would be nonsense

The Keltic Nordid ( Iron Age Nordid) is a special Nordid type, slightly altered by the Central European Dinarid ( from Bell Beaker cultures), but never to the same degree as the Norid. The Atlantid, maybe Baskid influences are minor not important.
The Atlantid is an intermediate between the Iron Age Nordid and Atlanto - Mediterranid, while the North Atlantid is predominantly ( Iron Age Nordid). Thus the North Atlantid is more Nordid than the Dalofaelid which is CM - Nordid mix, the Borreby is mostly CM. In terms of facial features, body build, cephalic index, the North Atlantid is much closer to the Nordid Proper than the Dalofaelid. On the other hand the Dalofaelid is more similar in pigmentation as it is also a blonde type.
Within the Nordid Proper is a small minority which is darker - haired, darker - eyed, not as pale - skinned which should not be disregarded.

Germany is definitely not Nordid in either the Hallstatt or Keltic varieties.

[Konstantinos]

Germans have variety but if I had to choose is Poles.