Your opinions on bullfighting?

[mitalit]

El mundo avanza hasta el momento en que deja de avanzar y vuelve hacia atrás. igual dentro de no mucho necesitan que volvamos a ser crueles, y entonces el toreo, vuelve a ser un espectáculo edificante.

Si necesitan que la gente sea violenta para algo, volverán como en tiempos pasados, a considerar la crueldad dirigida a los eventuales enemigos, como una virtud, y la cargarán de honores.

¿Acaso no son otra cosa que todos los héroes nacionales recordados por la historia de cada país o pueblo?

Los humanos somos como los animales y hacemos lo que sea para sobrevivir, pero bueno, espero que todo siga avanzando.

[Finnish Swede]

My opinion:

Saying bullfighting is part of culture ... just shows/proves that some parts of human cultures simply sucks. I was against Brits fox hunting with dogs as well (I hope it is banned today?). Nothing more.

Tortuing animals? I'm strongly against it. With me ... that is true even with farm animals. We don't do that in our small farm but yes ... it is unfortuntaly everydays matters/standards in the world. Tells more about us humans (we are not so ''great'' as some things), than anything else. Even in Europe. Starting from long animal transports (alive) in Europe (animals can not move, can not eat, they are injured etc.). Not to talking about other continents. Nope, one can kill animal easily/fast without causing unnessary paint to it (but doing whole process like that from farms to kitchen ... is not the most cost effective.

Now before one has any time to say anything, yes I'm against whale hunting as well ... because one can not kill whale without causing lots of pain to it. Opposite I'm not against deer/elk etc. hunting ... where animal can be killed with one bullet. Of course all hunters should first pass shooting tests etc. to really have skills enough.

Over all for me ... how we threat our animals tells a lot of us (races/nations/ethnics/individual humans).

[gixajo]

My opinion:

Saying bullfighting is part of culture ... just shows/proves that some parts of human cultures simply sucks. I was against Brits fox hunting with dogs as well (I hope it is banned today?). Nothing more.

Tortuing animals? I'm strongly against it. With me ... that is true even with farm animals. We don't do that in our small farm but yes ... it is unfortuntaly everydays matters/standards in the world. Tells more about us humans (we are not so ''great'' as some things), than anything else. Even in Europe. Starting from long animal transports (alive) in Europe (animals can not move, can not eat, they are injured etc.). Not to talking about other continents. Nope, one can kill animal easily/fast without causing unnessary paint to it (but doing whole process like that from farms to kitchen ... is not the most cost effective.

Now before one has any time to say anything, yes I'm against whale hunting as well ... because one can not kill whale without causing lots of pain to it. Opposite I'm not against deer/elk etc. hunting ... where animal can be killed with one bullet. Of course all hunters should first pass shooting tests etc. to really have skills enough.

Over all for me ... how we threat our animals tells a lot of us (races/nations/ethnics/individual humans).

Yeah, I am agree, killing seals with sticks by hundreds to obtain its skins, tell a lot about about how people is. It´s not even an aesthetic spectacle but I will not say that Swedish or Canadians are sadic people who maintain brutal traditions hiding it in ecological criteria (too much population) or economic criteria (seals eat too much cod).

[Malagueña]

I was against Brits fox hunting with dogs as well (I hope it is banned today?)

Illegal since 2004

Edit: Apparently Tories want it back because it's "part of their culture"

[Maintenance]

Yeah, I am agree, killing seals with sticks by hundreds to obtain its skins, tell a lot about about how people is. It´s not even an aesthetic spectacle but I will not say that Swedish or Canadians are sadic people who maintain brutal traditions hiding it in ecological criteria (too much population) or economic criteria (seals eat too much cod).

I think its sad to kill seals because its been my favorite animal since i was a young kid, but there is a need to kill them sadly.
Other animals are being saved from being extinct by killing seals, and they aren't killed with sticks lol..

[gixajo]

I think its sad to kill seals because its been my favorite animal since i was a young kid, but there is a need to kill them sadly.
Other animals are being saved from being extinct by killing seals, and they aren't killed with sticks lol..

Ok, so the end justifies the means.Do you think this way?

In this case I think the end is faked to give a reason to make see the people that killing seals, even baby seals, is legit.

If seals have natural depredators they would not must been killed.

What is the need of killing whales?

We can also find reasons to explain the need of bullfighting. Bullfighting is a way to redirect the cruelty of human being towards less harming activities than killing other humans, making it an aesthetical spectacle, disguissing it in an aura of culture and turning it in a profitable buissines.

[Maintenance]

Ok, so the end justifies the means.Do you think this way?

In this case I think the end is faked to give a reason to make see the people that killing seals, even baby seals, is legit.

If seals have natural depredators they would not must been killed.

What is the need of killing whales?

We can also find reasons to explain the need of bullfighting. Bullfighting is a way to redirect the cruelty of human being towards less harming activities than killing other humans, making it an aesthetical spectacle, disguissing it in an aura of culture and turning it in a profitable buissines.

There is no killing of whales here and the killing of seals is very restricted just to let other animals get some food and don't go extinct.

There is no way to have any good reason of having bullfighting the way its done today lol..

If you need bullfighting to stop killing eachother thats some genetical error in your brains lol.

[gixajo]

There is no killing of whales here and the killing of seals is very restricted just to let other animals get some food and don't go extinct.

There is no way to have any good reason of having bullfighting the way its done today lol..

If you need bullfighting to stop killing eachother thats some genetical error in your brains lol.

Oh yeah, and the bullfighting is also very restricted.

I don´t need it, I am trying to discuss and to teach thinking, but you cannot understand that my point is not defending bullfighting.

You have Greek ancestry, don´y you know the "mayeutic" philosophical term?

Bullfighting is not the problem, the problem is people who tells things as:"If you need bullfighting to stop killing eachother thats some genetical error in your brains lol".

[Maintenance]

Oh yeah, and the bullfighting is also very restricted.

I don´t need it, I am trying to discuss and to teach thinking, but you cannot understand that my point is not defending bullfighting.

You have Greek ancestry, don´y you know the "mayeutic" philosophical term?

Bullfighting is not the problem, the problem is people who tells things as:"If you need bullfighting to stop killing eachother thats some genetical error in your brains lol".

You are defending abuse of animals since you get very defensive about the subject and try to claim other countries abuse animals as tradition aswell when thats completely false.

I also said that because you said "Bullfighting is a way to redirect the cruelty of human being towards less harming activities than killing other humans"

So i just replied to your saying that its good because it keeps spaniards from killing each other.

Bullfighting restriction still do nothing to stop abuse animals making them suffer to death, and No they don't have a "chance" to survive fighting for their life as you previously stated.

[gixajo]

You are defending abuse of animals since you get very defensive about the subject and try to claim other countries abuse animals as tradition aswell when thats completely false.

I also said that because you said "Bullfighting is a way to redirect the cruelty of human being towards less harming activities than killing other humans"

So i just replied to your saying that its good because it keeps spaniards from killing each other.

Bullfighting restriction still do nothing to stop abuse animals making them suffer to death, and No they don't have a "chance" to survive fighting for their life as you previously stated.

I didn´t say that "Bullfighting is a way to redirect the cruelty of human being towards less harming activities than killing other humans" I said that this could be a reason that those who defend it could give same as you said that "killing seals is necessary" is a reason given for those who defends it.

But anyway, I saw already how your brain works, so I am not interested in discussing more with you, because you will not understand what I am saying and you will start to insulting soon covertly .Again.