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    Welcome to this forum. And thanks for asking me to help you classify them.

    Since you posted way too many, it will take hours to go through them. Lol. Overall, they were mostly Mtebids (surprisingly), Armenoid, Taurid, Syrids, East Meds and a few Pontids. Or a combo of those. To my surprise, they actually looked rather Caucasian than Levantine. So, in other words, more similar to Georgians and other people of the Caucasus than to us.

    I would be happy if you send a pic of one person and I classify each individual one by one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Troodon View Post
    I heard that Assyrians live in Syria too and have been there for thousands of years. The Syrian-Assyrian community may be indigenous but I am no expert on this.
    The Assyrians in Syria have only been there since the 1930s, when they were driven out by an Iraqi coupe during the Simele Massacre in Northern Iraq (many others, including my family, moved to other Iraqi cities like Kirkuk and Baghdad, whilst the rest moved to Syria). At that time, most Assyrians were living in northern Iraq. In the early 20th century and way before that, we mostly lived in southeastern Turkey, with a few of us in northeastern Iran and northern Iraq as well. In the ancient times, our empire sprawled towards Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon and Iran, but no ethnic Assyrian lived there or had communities there. Even if they did, they probably lost their identity and 'morphed' into their populations. Only the Assyrian remaining in Upper Mesopotamia kept their identity, remained mostly pure and had a continuity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelati View Post
    Welcome to this forum. And thanks for asking me to help you classify them.

    Okay, you posted way too many and it will take hours to go through them. Lol. Overall, they were mostly Mtebids (surprisingly), Armenoid, Taurid, Syrids & East Meds. Or a combo of those.

    I would be happy if you send a pic of one person and I classify each individual one by one.
    Any Alpinids and Pontids in there? What exactly is a Taurid and Syrid? Those were vague and strange classifications I didn't expect at all.

    I should mention that the overwhelming majority of them are Armenians from Armenia

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarLFC View Post
    Any Alpinids and Pontids in there? What exactly is a Taurid and Syrid? Those were vague and strange classifications I didn't expect at all.

    I should mention that the overwhelming majority of them are Armenians from Armenia
    A few Pontids as I said. But very few Alpines - Kamo and Felix stood out as alpine from the profile photos you provided.

    Taurid is a mixture of Armenoid and Dinarid. It's not a legit phenotype I believe, but it is used at times. Littorid is an actual phenotype, which is a mixture of Armenoid, Dinarid and Mediterranid.

    Syrid aka Assyrid is a blend of Arabid and Armenoid. But I believe a little bit of Iranid is also part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelati View Post
    The Assyrians in Syria have only been there since the 1930s, when they were driven out by an Iraqi coupe during the Simele Massacre in Northern Iraq (many others, including my family, moved to other Iraqi cities like Kirkuk and Baghdad, whilst the rest moved to Syria). At that time, most Assyrians were living in northern Iraq. In the early 20th century and way before that, we mostly lived in southeastern Turkey, with a few of us in northeastern Iran and northern Iraq as well. In the ancient times, our empire sprawled towards Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon and Iran, but no ethnic Assyrian lived there or had communities there. Even if they did, they probably lost their identity and 'morphed' into their populations. Only the Assyrian remaining in Upper Mesopotamia kept their identity, remained mostly pure and had a continuity.
    Thanks for informing me this . You learn something new everyday. I suppose I was largely wrong about Assyrians living in Syria for thousands of years. But there has definitely been historical contacts between Assyrians and modern-day Syria.

    And no off-topic derailing intended
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troodon View Post
    Thanks for informing me this . You learn something new everyday. I suppose I was largely wrong about Assyrians living in Syria for thousands of years. But there has definitely been historical contacts between Assyrians and modern-day Syria.

    And no off-topic derailing intended
    Heck, as an Assyrian myself even I used to think that Assyrians continuously lived in Syria for thousands of years. Lol.

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