Iranian Turks (a racial, characteristic & cultural description)

[Mejgusu]

Are you just reffering to the Turkmens? They are usually seen as a seperate group from the "Torkouman". But sometimes they are grouped with other Khorasan Turks because of location. And they are part of the greater group of "Iranian Turks"

Its a different question. By definition, some say horosan turks are also turkmen, some say to other groups turkmen etc. Are torkouman another group or just the persian term? But if we have to generalize, i would say i meant the turkmens which also live in Central asia.

[Mejgusu]

On migrations and seperation of Azerbaijanis:

( i cant give a thumb up)

[Babak]

Iranian azerbaijani nationalists who bled, died, and sacrificed for Iran:


Sattar Khan:



Bagher Khan:



Seqat-ol-Eslam Tabrizi



Hassan Taqizadeh:

[Marmara]

Turkish historian İlber Ortaylı claims that it was Turks who named Iran as "Iran", while it was a provincal and ethnic naming before, after Turks' arrival it got stuck as the geographical name for entire Persian-speaking realm.

He also says the terms "Iran" and "Iranian" are good because they are pluralistic and inclusive, fits to a diverse and multi-cultural country.

[Dr_Maul]

Do you guys know how some Iranian Turks ended up with J1?

[Halgurd]

Turkish historian İlber Ortaylı claims that it was Turks who named Iran as "Iran", while it was a provincal and ethnic naming before, after Turks' arrival it got stuck as the geographical name for entire Persian-speaking realm.

Eranshahr?

[Marmara]

Eranshahr?

Iran (Aryan) was an ethnic name then wasn't it? I don't know the details, but i think after the arrival of Turks it has transformed from an ethnic name to a regional name. Eranshah means (Land of Aryans) so Iran was still used as an ethnic naming.

[Kyp]

Turko-Persian states:

Ghaznavid Empire: Mamluk origin
Seljuk Empire: Oghuz Turkic origin
Khwarazmian dynasty: Mamluk origin
Aq Qoyunlu: Federation of Oghuz Turkic origin
(Safavid Dynasty: Heavy turkicized Dynasty of Kurdish origin)
Afsharid Dynasty: Oghuz origin
Qajar Dynasty: Oghuz origin

[Kyp]

Do you guys know how some Iranian Turks ended up with J1?

Qajar Dynasty is J1 and a lot of Republic Azerbaijanis are J1

[Dr_Maul]

Qajar Dynasty is J1 and a lot of Republic Azerbaijanis are J1

Yeah, they also found an Atabeg of Nakhchivan from the 18 century who had J1 too. I think those that got it are the ones who migrated through Dagestan (also high J1)