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    Default Sredny Stog culture was not Indo-European

    Supported by those who can't live with the fact that Yamnaya was just a late PIEan culture full of West Asian DNA and Indo-Europeanized by people from the south. And that proto-Anatolian (ancestral to the Hittites) was older than Yamnaya.

    It is a pathetic, ridiculous and laughable way of thinking. Why?

    Sredny Stog culture was not a Kurgan culture. IEans in the steppes were associated with the kurgans. Also, there is clearly a huge migration detected from Yamnaya into Europe.

    Sredny Stog culture was full of EEF or ANF. If Sredny Stog was Indo-European then Colin Renfrew was right and Europe was Indo-Europeanised by the Anatolian Farmers. Sure, the Anatolian Farmers from West Asia heavily changed the DNA in Europe. But I think we have enough evidence that LATE proto-Indo-European kurgan culture Yamnaya came later and had also a major genetic influence on Europe!


    So, my point is that if Sredny Stog was Indo-European, which I'm sure it was absolutely not the case, then it was Indo-Europeanised by the Anatolian Farmers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
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    It is all over the internet.

    If people think that Sredny Stog culture was Indo-European in nature then Renfrew was right after all and Europe was Indo-Europeanised by the Anatolian Farmers, since there is a lot Anatolian stuff (EEF) in Sredny Stog.


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    But all evidence is pointing to the 'kurgans'. Proto-Indo-Europeans have been associated with the Kurgans and Yamnaya was the first kurgan culture in the Steppes. But science has shown that Yamnaya played a bigger role in Indo-Europeanising Europe. There were some huge migration waves from Yamnya into Europe, because it was Yamnaya that spread CHG-IranChL type of DNA in the west. All major ancient Indo-European cultures were derived from Yamnaya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eline View Post
    But all evidence is pointing to the 'kurgans'. Proto-Indo-Europeans have been associated with the Kurgans and Yamnaya was the first kurgan culture in the Steppes. But science has shown that Yamnaya played a bigger role in Indo-Europeanising Europe. There were some huge migration waves from Yamnya into Europe, because it was Yamnaya that spread CHG-IranChL type of DNA in the west. All major ancient Indo-European cultures were derived from Yamnaya.
    is there any CHG- fan club you can join?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eline View Post
    But all evidence is pointing to the 'kurgans'. Proto-Indo-Europeans have been associated with the Kurgans and Yamnaya was the first kurgan culture in the Steppes. But science has shown that Yamnaya played a bigger role in Indo-Europeanising Europe. There were some huge migration waves from Yamnya into Europe, because it was Yamnaya that spread CHG-IranChL type of DNA in the west. All major ancient Indo-European cultures were derived from Yamnaya.
    double post.
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    I'm just pointing out the facts. Yamnaya culture became part of the European history. Hey, even if you feel frustrated don't shoot the messenger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eline View Post
    I'm just pointing out the facts. Yamnaya culture became part of the European history. Hey, even if feel frustrated don'.t shoot the messenger
    i m not frustated, but you seem to be in love with chg for whatever reason it may be.

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    Well, it is all about the individuality in our western society here in Europe. I can be in love with anything and everybody I want.

    I am also interested in history and I am an investigation type and always want to know the truth, no matter I support/like it or not. The truth for me is the most important. Only with the truth science will go forward. Otherwise science will become a religion and people here in Europe will degenerate like people in other parts of the world where religion is the leading factor.

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    I am just trying my best to pointing out that Sredny Stog is a very bad candidate for being early PIEan. Sredny Stog was just an early European farming society influenced by the EEF/ANF, just like all other parts of the Balkans at that time. Sure, maybe later it was Indo-Europeanised by the Yamnya Horizon, but only then after the Indo-Europeanisation we see kurgans there.

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