South German GEDmatch results

**Peterski** · 05-07-2020, 03:23 AM

Bavarians (proper), Eurogenes K15:

Code:

Bavarian1,25.1,28.05,11.69,7.04,11.88,6.12,8.3,0.54,0,0,0,0.82,0.46,0,0
Bavarian2,25.86,27.62,13.86,6.01,14.1,5.3,5.91,0.29,0,0,0.94,0,0.1,0,0
Bavarian3,26.15,30.92,9.19,10.44,10.09,5.4,6.31,1.3,0,0,0,0,0.12,0.08,0
Bavarian4,29.95,23,12.06,8.3,13.77,5.93,5.56,0,0,0,0,0.9,0.52,0,0
Bavarian5,28.83,20.91,10.06,10.92,11.03,11,5.79,1.11,0.21,0,0,0.13,0,0,0
Bavarian6,31.04,21.51,11.48,7.67,12.15,6.35,8.51,0,0,0.87,0,0,0.42,0,0

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Upper Swabians, Eurogenes K15:

Code:

Upper_Swabian1,25.58,24.63,13.52,8.39,10.93,8.01,7.96,0,0,0,0,0.47,0.52,0,0
Upper_Swabian2,25.51,27.23,12.36,9.01,11.18,6.46,7.53,0,0.21,0,0,0,0.52,0,0
Upper_Swabian3,26.73,26.64,13.78,6.78,12.25,3.51,9.98,0.09,0,0,0,0.23,0,0,0
Upper_Swabian4,33.28,26.62,11.17,4.69,10.59,3.64,4.46,2.73,1.76,0.58,0,0.46,0,0,0
Upper_Swabian5,26.96,23.21,11.97,7.86,9.64,7.52,11.05,0,1.12,0,0,0.56,0.11,0,0
Upper_Swabian6,27.07,27.42,14.02,7.43,9.63,6.88,6.46,0,0.69,0,0,0.2,0.16,0,0.05
Upper_Swabian7,28.2,25.22,14.05,7.61,11.73,7.03,4.67,0.61,0,0.28,0.47,0,0,0,0.13

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**Daco Celtic** · 05-07-2020, 03:32 AM

If I add them to K15, they come out as my closest populations due to a midpoint

Distance to: Daco_Celtic
4.17617049 Upper_Swabian5
4.54720793 Upper_Swabian1
5.69482221 Bavarian1
5.86671117 Upper_Swabian6
5.87577229 German_Bavarian
6.10682405 Upper_Swabian2
6.15732085 Austria-Tyrol
6.32363819 Bavarian6
6.33787030 Upper_Swabian7
6.71659884 Upper_Swabian3
7.12464034 Bavarian4
7.33038198 Bavarian2
8.33092432 Bavarian5
8.47151698 French
8.56407029 Italy_Aostavalley
8.57219342 South_Dutch
8.90731160 Belgium
9.38492408 West_German
10.13072554 Upper_Swabian4
10.14707840 Bavarian3
10.34191472 Austria-Burgenland
10.99064147 Italy_Trentino
12.00307461 Italy_Piedmont
12.38181328 North_German
12.56442995 Italy_Veneto

**Peterski** · 05-07-2020, 03:55 AM

Yes I do. But now there are two Bavarian K15 averages (do you know who made the other one?):

Code:

Bavarian_German,27.82,25.34,11.39,8.40,12.17,6.68,6.73,0.54,0.04,0.15,0.16,0.31,0.27,0.01,0
Upper_Swabian,27.62,25.85,12.98,7.40,10.85,6.15,7.44,0.49,0.54,0.12,0.07,0.27,0.19,0,0.03

**Daco Celtic** · 05-07-2020, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by Peterski

Yes I do. But now there are two Bavarian K15 averages (do you know who made the other one?):

Code:

Bavarian_German,27.82,25.34,11.39,8.40,12.17,6.68,6.73,0.54,0.04,0.15,0.16,0.31,0.27,0.01,0
Upper_Swabian,27.62,25.85,12.98,7.40,10.85,6.15,7.44,0.49,0.54,0.12,0.07,0.27,0.19,0,0.03

Thanks. Not sure where the other Bavarian one came one, they are a little different from each other but in my top 3

Distance to: Daco_Celtic
4.60278177 Upper_Swabian
5.10208781 Bavarian_German
5.87577229 German_Bavarian
6.15732085 Austria-Tyrol
8.47151698 French
8.56407029 Italy_Aostavalley
8.57219342 South_Dutch
8.90731160 Belgium
9.38492408 West_German
10.34191472 Austria-Burgenland
10.99064147 Italy_Trentino
12.00307461 Italy_Piedmont
12.38181328 North_German
12.56442995 Italy_Veneto
12.76083853 Italy_Friuli
12.77948649 Szekely
12.87117322 France-South
13.21796505 East_German
13.31060855 Austrian
13.44093375 Southwest_English
13.88539160 Southeast_English
14.47978246 Hungarian
14.56319333 Dutch
14.57657024 Serbian
14.71791765 Spanish_Cataluna

**JQP4545** · 05-07-2020, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by Peterski

Bavarians (proper), Eurogenes K15:

Code:

Bavarian1,25.1,28.05,11.69,7.04,11.88,6.12,8.3,0.54,0,0,0,0.82,0.46,0,0
Bavarian2,25.86,27.62,13.86,6.01,14.1,5.3,5.91,0.29,0,0,0.94,0,0.1,0,0
Bavarian3,26.15,30.92,9.19,10.44,10.09,5.4,6.31,1.3,0,0,0,0,0.12,0.08,0
Bavarian4,29.95,23,12.06,8.3,13.77,5.93,5.56,0,0,0,0,0.9,0.52,0,0
Bavarian5,28.83,20.91,10.06,10.92,11.03,11,5.79,1.11,0.21,0,0,0.13,0,0,0
Bavarian6,31.04,21.51,11.48,7.67,12.15,6.35,8.51,0,0,0.87,0,0,0.42,0,0

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Upper Swabians, Eurogenes K15:

Code:

Upper_Swabian1,25.58,24.63,13.52,8.39,10.93,8.01,7.96,0,0,0,0,0.47,0.52,0,0
Upper_Swabian2,25.51,27.23,12.36,9.01,11.18,6.46,7.53,0,0.21,0,0,0,0.52,0,0
Upper_Swabian3,26.73,26.64,13.78,6.78,12.25,3.51,9.98,0.09,0,0,0,0.23,0,0,0
Upper_Swabian4,33.28,26.62,11.17,4.69,10.59,3.64,4.46,2.73,1.76,0.58,0,0.46,0,0,0
Upper_Swabian5,26.96,23.21,11.97,7.86,9.64,7.52,11.05,0,1.12,0,0,0.56,0.11,0,0
Upper_Swabian6,27.07,27.42,14.02,7.43,9.63,6.88,6.46,0,0.69,0,0,0.2,0.16,0,0.05
Upper_Swabian7,28.2,25.22,14.05,7.61,11.73,7.03,4.67,0.61,0,0.28,0.47,0,0,0,0.13

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Can you do K13 and Dodecad?

**Peterski** · 05-07-2020, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by JQP4545

Can you do K13 and Dodecad?

For Bavarians I can, for Upper Swabians no because their kits are no longer active (luckily I saved their K15, but not K13 and Dodecad).

Maybe the kits will be re-activated later, who knows.

**Gründig** · 05-07-2020, 05:45 AM

I think I did this right. It’s a pain in the ass doing it from my phone.

I’m not sure what the differences between the Bavarians are. Here are just the averages:

Distance to: G
3.70199946 German_Bavarian
4.39977272 Bavarian_German
4.55647890 Upper_Swabian
5.07261274 South_Dutch
6.90554125 Belgium
7.79351012 North_German
7.79404260 Austria-Tyrol
8.23745713 Austria-Burgenland
8.75599794 French
8.88010698 West_German
9.41241202 East_German
9.81033129 Southwest_English
10.37706124 Southeast_English
10.62625522 England
10.66115847 Dutch
11.54575247 North_Dutch
11.60542115 Italy_Aostavalley
11.62628488 Irish
11.91464645 Austrian
12.61438068 West_Scottish
12.61570450 Scotland
13.71497721 Hungarian
13.83536411 Danish
14.02068829 Kaykavian_Croatian
14.08120023 Czech

I’m pretty close to upper_swabian7. My great grandpa was from a small town not far from here. Here is everything:

Distance to: G
2.87424773 Upper_Swabian7
3.70199946 German_Bavarian
4.08061270 Upper_Swabian6
5.07261274 South_Dutch
5.44764169 Upper_Swabian2
5.51505213 Upper_Swabian1
6.18580633 Bavarian4
6.45845183 Bavarian2
6.66707582 Bavarian1
6.90554125 Belgium
7.63043904 Bavarian5
7.79351012 North_German
7.79404260 Austria-Tyrol
7.80337747 Bavarian3
8.11585485 Bavarian6
8.23745713 Austria-Burgenland
8.31170861 Upper_Swabian5
8.33543640 Upper_Swabian4
8.46910857 Upper_Swabian3
8.75599794 French
8.88010698 West_German
9.41241202 East_German
9.81033129 Southwest_English
10.37706124 Southeast_English
10.62625522 England

**Peterski** · 05-07-2020, 12:21 PM

^^^
Are you just a German-British mix or do you have some other ancestry too?

I'm surprised a German-British person plots so close to South Germans, because British admixture should be pulling you to the north.

**~~Dunai~~** · 05-07-2020, 04:03 PM

l am glad to see some more regional German results. Now that's a nation that deserves way more regional averages. I would be very curious of a Western German average, but which would also include the German people in Eastern France and Luxemburg, since they basically share common history and culture. My German roots mostly come from that area.

**Peterski** · 05-07-2020, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Dunai

I would be very curious of a Western German average

Generally, there are North-Western Germans and South-Western Germans.

Niedersachsen & Nordrhein-Westfalen are genetically Northern.

Baden-Württemberg, Rheinland-Pfalz & Saarland are Southern.