Kurdish Zaza dna results

**Kerem_turc** · 05-08-2020, 01:23 AM

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.48
2 East_Med 31.2
3 South_Asian 8.85
4 Red_Sea 7.36
5 Baltic 6.33
6 West_Med 4.61
7 North_Atlantic 3.3
8 Sub-Saharan 0.97
9 East_Asian 0.77
10 Amerindian 0.11
11 Oceanian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 3.71
2 Kurdish 5.15
3 Azeri 5.99
4 Georgian_Jewish 9.75
5 Armenian 11.13
6 Turkish 11.23
7 Assyrian 11.92
8 Iranian_Jewish 13.18
9 Kurdish_Jewish 14.17
10 Kumyk 15.7
11 Turkmen 17.57
12 Georgian 18.07
13 Lebanese_Muslim 18.08
14 Adygei 18.41
15 Syrian 18.75
16 Abhkasian 19.53
17 Balkar 20.41
18 Ossetian 21.04
19 Kabardin 21.04
20 North_Ossetian 21.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.8% Iranian + 8.2% Ashkenazi @ 2.66
2 93.4% Iranian + 6.6% Bulgarian @ 2.75
3 92.7% Iranian + 7.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.76
4 91.9% Iranian + 8.1% Central_Greek @ 2.78
5 92.1% Iranian + 7.9% East_Sicilian @ 2.83
6 93.9% Iranian + 6.1% Romanian @ 2.83
7 94.5% Iranian + 5.5% Serbian @ 2.86
8 92.7% Iranian + 7.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.89
9 92.9% Iranian + 7.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.9
10 90.5% Iranian + 9.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.91
11 92.5% Iranian + 7.5% South_Italian @ 2.93
12 90.9% Iranian + 9.1% Cyprian @ 2.94
13 93.5% Iranian + 6.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.95
14 95.5% Iranian + 4.5% Croatian @ 2.96
15 92.7% Iranian + 7.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.97
16 95.5% Iranian + 4.5% Hungarian @ 2.98
17 93.2% Iranian + 6.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.99
18 95.2% Iranian + 4.8% Moldavian @ 2.99
19 94.4% Iranian + 5.6% Tuscan @ 2.99
20 96.3% Iranian + 3.7% Belorussian @ 2.99

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri +50% Iranian @ 3.859052

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian +25% Iranian_Jewish +25% Kumyk @ 3.012089

Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Iranian + Iranian + Iranian_Jewish + Kumyk @ 3.012089
2 Iranian + Iranian_Jewish + Iranian_Jewish + Tabassaran @ 3.096721
3 Iranian + Iranian_Jewish + Iranian_Jewish + Lezgin @ 3.292529
4 Iranian + Iranian + Lebanese_Druze + Lezgin @ 3.340415
5 Iranian + Iranian + Kumyk + Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.424005
6 Iranian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian + Lezgin @ 3.436141
7 Iranian + Iranian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Tabassaran @ 3.459354
8 Iranian + Iranian + Iranian_Jewish + Lezgin @ 3.484854
9 Azeri + Iranian + Iranian + Iranian @ 3.486366
10 Azeri + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian + Iranian @ 3.548303
11 Georgian_Jewish + Iranian + Iranian + Iranian @ 3.550478
12 Kurdish_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Lezgin + Makrani @ 3.611240
13 Chechen + Iranian + Iranian + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.638455
14 Iranian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian + Tabassaran @ 3.651361
15 Iranian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Lezgin + Makrani @ 3.662316
16 Chechen + Iranian + Iranian_Jewish + Iranian_Jewish @ 3.665180
17 Iranian + Iranian + Iranian + Turkish @ 3.674888
18 Iranian + Iranian + Kurdish_Jewish + Lezgin @ 3.680935
19 Iranian + Iranian + Lebanese_Druze + Tabassaran @ 3.710075
20 Assyrian + Iranian + Iranian + Iranian @ 3.713933

Docedad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.63
2 Gedrosia 23.26
3 Southwest_Asian 15.31
4 North_European 7.91
5 Atlantic_Med 4.28
6 South_Asian 3.97
7 East_African 1.15
8 Siberian 1.08
9 Northwest_African 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 6.13
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 6.75
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.81
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.15
5 Iranians (Behar) 9.61
6 Turks (Behar) 11.88
7 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 12.54
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 12.98
9 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 13.19
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 13.65
11 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 14.45
12 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.51
13 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 14.95
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 15.57
15 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.93
16 Lebanese (Behar) 17.03
17 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.59
18 Armenians (Behar) 18.87
19 Syrians (Behar) 18.94
20 Druze (HGDP) 19.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 23.2% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.22
2 87% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 13% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.86
3 78.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 21.3% Burusho (HGDP) @ 3.87
4 80.3% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 19.7% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 3.89
5 52.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 47.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 4.02
6 88.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 11.8% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.07
7 83.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Samaritians (Behar) @ 4.09
8 83.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 16.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.18
9 89.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 10.6% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 4.21
10 71.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 28.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.23
11 69.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 30.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 4.25
12 78.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 21.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.33
13 76.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 23.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 4.45
14 79% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 21% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.53
15 91% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 9% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 4.61
16 76.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 23.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.64
17 83% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 4.67
18 79.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 20.8% Syrians (Behar) @ 4.71
19 90.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 9.6% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 4.72
20 74.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 25.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 4.78

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian_Dodecad +50% Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 4.279924

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranians_Behar +25% Lezgins_Behar +25% Samaritians_Behar @ 2.779584

Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Adygei_HGDP + Balochi_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 2.718064
2 Iranians_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Lezgins_Behar + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.779584
3 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 2.832314
4 Iranian_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Lezgins_Behar + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.853151
5 Adygei_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 2.902547
6 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Adygei_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 3.007482
7 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Adygei_HGDP + Balochi_HGDP + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 3.025617
8 Iranians_Behar + Iranians_Behar + North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev + Syrians_Behar @ 3.040631
9 Adygei_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 3.074833
10 Balochi_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 3.100298
11 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balkars_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 3.127002
12 Chechens_Yunusbayev + Iranians_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Samaritians_Behar @ 3.135693
13 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 3.149955
14 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Iranians_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 3.170020
15 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balkars_Yunusbayev + Makrani_HGDP + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 3.235955
16 Chechens_Yunusbayev + Iranian_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 3.258446
17 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Bedouin_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 3.263591
18 Chechens_Yunusbayev + Iranians_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 3.325139
19 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 3.335134
20 Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 3.343339

HarappaWorld

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.5
2 Baloch 23.45
3 SW-Asian 14.61
4 NE-Euro 6.03
5 Mediterranean 4.73
6 S-Indian 4.16
7 Pygmy 1.25
8 Siberian 0.8
9 SE-Asian 0.24
10 Papuan 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (yunusbayev) 4.48
2 kurd (harappa) 4.83
3 kurd (xing) 5.51
4 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 6.23
5 iranian (harappa) 6.27
6 iranian (behar) 6.79
7 azeri (harappa) 7.41
8 turkish (harappa) 7.76
9 armenian (harappa) 8.23
10 assyrian (harappa) 10.43
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 10.7
12 turk (behar) 11.27
13 iraqi-arab (harappa) 11.41
14 iranian-jew (behar) 11.5
15 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 11.55
16 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 11.78
17 georgia-jew (behar) 12.23
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 12.4
19 iraq-jew (behar) 13.04
20 armenian (yunusbayev) 13.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.6% iranian (behar) + 30.4% armenian (behar) @ 3
2 75.6% georgia-jew (behar) + 24.4% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.06
3 80.5% iranian (harappa) + 19.5% druze (hgdp) @ 3.19
4 68.7% iranian (harappa) + 31.3% georgia-jew (behar) @ 3.21
5 50.2% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 49.8% iranian (harappa) @ 3.24
6 75.2% assyrian (harappa) + 24.8% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.34
7 87.5% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 12.5% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.38
8 78.8% kurd (yunusbayev) + 21.2% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 3.38
9 84.4% kurd (yunusbayev) + 15.6% syrian (behar) @ 3.4
10 96.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 3.5% irula (xing) @ 3.42
11 96.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 3.4% pulliyar (metspalu) @ 3.43
12 93.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 6.7% yemen-jew (behar) @ 3.43
13 96.8% kurd (yunusbayev) + 3.2% paniya (chaubey) @ 3.46
14 91.7% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.3% yemenese (behar) @ 3.48
15 76.1% georgia-jew (behar) + 23.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.49
16 86.9% kurd (harappa) + 13.1% druze (hgdp) @ 3.49
17 68.5% iranian (harappa) + 31.5% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 3.53
18 94.4% kurd (yunusbayev) + 5.6% saudi (behar) @ 3.53
19 89.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 10.5% palestinian (hgdp) @ 3.53
20 94.4% kurd (yunusbayev) + 5.6% qatari (henn2012) @ 3.55

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% iranian_harappa +50% uzbekistan-jew_behar @ 3.361398

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% druze_hgdp +25% lezgin_behar +25% makrani_hgdp @ 2.372090

Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 adygei_hgdp + balochi_hgdp + druze_hgdp + iraq-jew_behar @ 2.026140
2 balkar_yunusbayev + balochi_hgdp + druze_hgdp + iraq-jew_behar @ 2.292592
3 adygei_hgdp + druze_hgdp + iraq-jew_behar + makrani_hgdp @ 2.306982
4 adygei_hgdp + balochi_hgdp + druze_hgdp + iranian-jew_behar @ 2.355512
5 balochi_hgdp + druze_hgdp + iraq-jew_behar + north-ossetian_yunusbayev @ 2.359106
6 druze_hgdp + druze_hgdp + lezgin_behar + makrani_hgdp @ 2.372090
7 brahui_hgdp + chechen_yunusbayev + druze_hgdp + druze_hgdp @ 2.396100
8 brahui_hgdp + druze_hgdp + druze_hgdp + lezgin_behar @ 2.402003
9 balochi_hgdp + druze_hgdp + druze_hgdp + lezgin_behar @ 2.421222
10 adygei_hgdp + brahui_hgdp + druze_hgdp + iraq-jew_behar @ 2.460579
11 adygei_hgdp + balochi_hgdp + druze_hgdp + iraqi-mandaean_harappa @ 2.484359
12 balkar_yunusbayev + balochi_hgdp + druze_hgdp + iranian-jew_behar @ 2.484380
13 balkar_yunusbayev + druze_hgdp + iraq-jew_behar + makrani_hgdp @ 2.505133
14 brahui_hgdp + druze_hgdp + druze_hgdp + kumyk_yunusbayev @ 2.538245
15 adygei_hgdp + druze_hgdp + iranian-jew_behar + makrani_hgdp @ 2.544668
16 adygei_hgdp + druze_hgdp + iraqi-mandaean_harappa + makrani_hgdp @ 2.598481
17 georgian_harappa + iraq-jew_behar + pashtun_harappa + uzbekistan-jew_behar @ 2.615183
18 balkar_yunusbayev + balochi_hgdp + druze_hgdp + iraqi-mandaean_harappa @ 2.634070
19 balkar_yunusbayev + druze_hgdp + iranian-jew_behar + makrani_hgdp @ 2.640703
20 balkar_yunusbayev + brahui_hgdp + druze_hgdp + iraq-jew_behar @ 2.643732

**Hudayar** · 05-08-2020, 03:38 AM

Zazas are actually thought to be Northern Iranians who for some reasons migrated to Anatolia. They are called "Dimli", which translates to Daylam, a place in Northern Iran that borders the Caspian Sea.

**Halgurd** · 05-08-2020, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by Hudayar

Zazas are actually thought to be Northern Iranians who for some reasons migrated to Anatolia. They are called "Dimli", which translated to Daylam, a place in Northern Iran that borders the Caspian Sea.

This is highly inaccurate. There are Zaza speaking Kurds in Iraqi Kurdistan and Iranian Kurdistan as well. Only a section of them are called Dimli which may or may not be related.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabaki_language

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorani_language

**Hudayar** · 05-08-2020, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by Halgurd

This is highly inaccurate. There are Zaza speaking Kurds in Iraqi Kurdistan and Iranian Kurdistan as well. Only a section of them are called Dimli which may or may not be related.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabaki_language

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorani_language

So I was mistaken then.

**Dr_Maul** · 05-08-2020, 04:24 AM

Whats your K36?

**Demhat** · 05-08-2020, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by Hudayar

Zazas are actually thought to be Northern Iranians who for some reasons migrated to Anatolia. They are called "Dimli", which translates to Daylam, a place in Northern Iran that borders the Caspian Sea.

That is untrue. They do not come from Daylam there is neither linguistic nor genetic evidence for that.

Also not all "Zaza" are Dimli. And Zaza is actually not even the definition the speakers of that language use. It is a tiny part of these people who life in Elazig that call themselves Zaza. Dersim "Zazaki" speakers actually view the term Zaza as insult and call themselves Kirmanc and their language Kirmancki.

Those in Bingöl call themselves Kird (as in Kurd) and their language Kirdki and those in Adiyaman and Diyarbakir call themselves Dimli.

And the majority of the people from this tribe are actually not from ancient Daylam. You find these "Dimli" or Dailami people assimilated among Iraqi Arabs known as Al dailami. You find them among Kurds in Iraq and Iran as Dumbuli and Dimili.

Look at this map of the various Kurdish tribes. The Dumbuli are actually a big Kurdish tribe in Northwest Iran.

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All Northwest Iranics are technically "North Iranian" by definition. In fact "zaza" are genetically the least Daylam related people among Kurds.

**Zoro** · 05-08-2020, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Hudayar

Zazas are actually thought to be Northern Iranians who for some reasons migrated to Anatolia. They are called "Dimli", which translates to Daylam, a place in Northern Iran that borders the Caspian Sea.

But aren't all Kurds originally from that area. I mean their genetic similarity with other Iranians and especially with lurs and Azeris almost makes it a no brainer.