Ion Basescul's brother DNA results

[Aspirin]

I already knew what he will plot so weird in Eurogenes K15.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.17
2 Atlantic 13.18
3 Eastern_Euro 13.18
4 North_Sea 13.05
5 West_Med 11.17
6 West_Asian 10.43
7 East_Med 10.31
8 South_Asian 1.62
9 Southeast_Asian 1.13
10 Red_Sea 0.74
11 Oceanian 0.54
12 Amerindian 0.27
13 Siberian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.49
2 Croatian 8.02
3 Romanian 9.3
4 Bulgarian 9.97
5 Serbian 10.52
6 Hungarian 11.9
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.2
8 Austrian 12.95
9 South_Polish 13.02
10 Ukrainian 13.22
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.21
12 Russian_Smolensk 14.64
13 Southwest_Russian 15.11
14 Polish 15.69
15 East_German 16.71
16 Belorussian 16.94
17 Estonian_Polish 17.03
18 Greek_Thessaly 17.85
19 Greek 18.09
20 Kargopol_Russian 18.81

[Leto]

Turanid is a Mongoloid influence? In Russians some East Eurasian-like phenotypical influence is often observable even though ethnic Russians are like 5% EE on average (it may range from 1 to 10% quite easily which is still not a very big percentage overall).

[Ion Basescul]

I already knew what he will plot so weird in Eurogenes K15.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.17
2 Atlantic 13.18
3 Eastern_Euro 13.18
4 North_Sea 13.05
5 West_Med 11.17
6 West_Asian 10.43
7 East_Med 10.31
8 South_Asian 1.62
9 Southeast_Asian 1.13
10 Red_Sea 0.74
11 Oceanian 0.54
12 Amerindian 0.27
13 Siberian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.49
2 Croatian 8.02
3 Romanian 9.3
4 Bulgarian 9.97
5 Serbian 10.52
6 Hungarian 11.9
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.2
8 Austrian 12.95
9 South_Polish 13.02
10 Ukrainian 13.22
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.21
12 Russian_Smolensk 14.64
13 Southwest_Russian 15.11
14 Polish 15.69
15 East_German 16.71
16 Belorussian 16.94
17 Estonian_Polish 17.03
18 Greek_Thessaly 17.85
19 Greek 18.09
20 Kargopol_Russian 18.81

Yeah, K13 looks better for now, although K13 is far from being a good calculator itself. He pulls to my mom, while I drift West.

[Ion Basescul]

Turanid is a Mongoloid influence? In Russians some East Eurasian-like phenotypical influence is often observable even though ethnic Russians are like 5% EE on average (it may range from 1 to 10% quite easily which is still not a very big percentage overall).

I would think that it is, but that doesn't necessarily indicate recent geneflow, as my brother's and Chris596's results show. It's probably ancient or medieval. It might not even trace from a Turkic/Mongolic source, but from extra ANE.

[Aspirin]

Turanid is a Mongoloid influence? In Russians some East Eurasian-like phenotypical influence is often observable even though ethnic Russians are like 5% EE on average (it may range from 1 to 10% quite easily which is still not a very big percentage overall).

In Russians is old, from Finno-Ugrics, is more balanced and not very screaming, in MD is recent. Here was almost continuously the presence (except the period between second half of 14th century and first half of 16th century) of Turkic populations in southern steppe regions, in 16-17th centuries in the lands ocupied by Turks moved Nogais, the most swartiest and wogiest steppe nomad population, and these ones clearly had some minor impact in that region, its seen even in surnames. In the north moved some Lipka tatars after Turks occupied northern territories after Russian 1711 failed campaign here, but here is not very visible. Plus here was such thing as Tatar slavery, some Tatars were Slaves here, they are mentioned till early 16th century, some of them for sure assimilated into major population, the rest into Gypsy population.

[Ion Basescul]

I already knew what he will plot so weird in Eurogenes K15.


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.17
2 Atlantic 13.18
3 Eastern_Euro 13.18
4 North_Sea 13.05
5 West_Med 11.17
6 West_Asian 10.43
7 East_Med 10.31
8 South_Asian 1.62
9 Southeast_Asian 1.13
10 Red_Sea 0.74
11 Oceanian 0.54
12 Amerindian 0.27
13 Siberian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.49
2 Croatian 8.02
3 Romanian 9.3
4 Bulgarian 9.97
5 Serbian 10.52
6 Hungarian 11.9
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.2
8 Austrian 12.95
9 South_Polish 13.02
10 Ukrainian 13.22
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.21
12 Russian_Smolensk 14.64
13 Southwest_Russian 15.11
14 Polish 15.69
15 East_German 16.71
16 Belorussian 16.94
17 Estonian_Polish 17.03
18 Greek_Thessaly 17.85
19 Greek 18.09
20 Kargopol_Russian 18.81

Quite different from mine
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.27
2 North_Sea 19.25
3 Atlantic 13.74
4 East_Med 11.77
5 Eastern_Euro 11.61
6 West_Med 10.83
7 West_Asian 7.69
8 Siberian 2.17
9 Southeast_Asian 1.57
10 Red_Sea 1.36
11 South_Asian 0.47
12 Oceanian 0.27


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.68
2 Serbian 5.73
3 Romanian 6.76
4 Hungarian 7.35
5 Croatian 7.77
6 Bulgarian 9.21
7 Austrian 9.8
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.17
9 East_German 12.61
10 South_Polish 13.13
11 Ukrainian 13.17
12 Greek_Thessaly 15.55
13 Polish 15.93
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.58
15 Russian_Smolensk 16.58
16 Southwest_Russian 16.98
17 Greek 17.3
18 West_German 17.56
19 Finnish 17.95
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.97

[Aspirin]

Quite different from mine

He is similar to this person, who score 19% North Atlantic and 37% Baltic, same weird position on PCA.

Red circle.

[Leto]

I would think that it is, but that doesn't necessarily indicate recent geneflow, as my brother's and Chris596's results show. It's probably ancient or medieval. It might not even trace from a Turkic/Mongolic source, but from extra ANE.

Do you have a good-quality selfie of your brother? Does he really show it?

[Leto]

In Russians is old, from Finno-Ugrics, is more balanced and not very screaming, in MD is recent. Here was almost continuously the presence (except the period between second half of 14th century and first half of 16th century) of Turkic populations in southern steppe regions, in 16-17 in the lands ocupied by Turks moved Nogais, the most swartiest and wogiest steppe nomad population, and these ones clearly had some minor impact in that region, its seen even in surnames. In the north moved some Lipka tatars after Turks occupied northern territories after Russian 1711 failed campaign here, but here is not very visible. Plus here was such thing as Tatar slavery, some Tatars were Slaves here, they are mentioned till early 16th century, some of them for sure assimilated into major population, the rest into Gypsy population.

Tatar slaves? Interesting. Usually it was the other way around - those Muslim mofos would raid our lands and capture our folks to sell them into Ottoman slavery. John the Russian (Иоанн Русский, one of my favorite Orthodox saints) was one of them, a captive from what is now Ukraine.

[Ion Basescul]

Do you have a good-quality selfie of your brother? Does he really show it?

I see Turan, but that's because my eyes are trained. I've sent you a recent one.