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    Quote Originally Posted by akva View Post
    Foreign troops marching in Russia’s Victory Day parade.

    Foreign leaders invited to the Victory Day parade also participated in the wreath-laying ceremony. Leaders of Abkhazia, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina (Serb member of the Presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina Milorad Dodik), Kazakhstan, Moldova, Serbia, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and South Ossetia were among the honored guests of the parade.




    You forgot about Mongolia. But they came to Moscow without horses, so i doubt they were real mongols. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundqvist View Post
    yes, sorry:
    This problem is purely statistical in nature. No armored personnel carriers - no problems. A lot of planes - they fall more often. Did you get the hint?
    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    War is horrible issue. If you celibrate that (victory ... 70 years ago) ... one could do that opposite .... peacefull ways (motto never again).

    Showing newiest military weapons is just like showing muscles ... like nazis did (we are that great/strong).
    Of course, war is terrible, especially if you are a defending side that does not expect a sudden attack from the so-called "allies." Therefore, the response was (and is) cruel - nothing remained of the European warlike spirit and values. Add to this list the European economy, which has not been developing for 20 years. But nothing bad will happen to Russia, we have already experienced everything in the 20th century, our way is only up.

    Aesthetically, the Stalinist USSR and the Third Reich are similar, but the similarities end there. The USSR did not serve the interests of global capital (globalists) and did not divide people into "classes." For what we got a war on our territory.

    Weapons demonstration is a message to the West that a world hot war is no longer possible due to possible mutual destruction.
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    Он же в Польше живет. Ему наверное такие парады куда ближе.
    Since such parades are held in his "conservative" country, then the majority of the population approves of them. Do not stop them from enjoying freedom and conservatism at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    Weapons demonstration is a message to the West that a world hot war is no longer possible due to possible mutual destruction.
    Thank you for this. Here we agree. The main ''purpose'' with that is not celibrate victory 70 years ago .... it is sent a message today.
    Same like with Nazis massive parades ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by akva View Post
    Он же в Польше живет. Ему наверное такие парады куда ближе.


    No dokładnie, jak się żyje w wolnym kraju to się totalitaryzmu nie zna jak w Rosji to fakt, nikt nas na takie parady nie zmusza. Chcą to niech się pchają, nie chcą to będzie ich to interesować, nikt nikomu nie broni ani nie zmusza. Też nie ma tutaj dominującego toksycznego lewactwa dopóki faktycznie nie dzieje się nic złego to policja nie interweniuje, policja nie ma preferencji co do powstrzymywania pochodów jak u was, a nie tak jak wasze skurczybyki co potrafią naskakiwać gdy widzą słabszych a "czurków z Kaukazu" ogarnąć nie potrafią.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Thank you for this. Here we agree. The main ''purpose'' with that is not celibrate victory 70 years ago .... it is sent a message today.
    Same like with Nazis massive parades ...
    There is one subtlety. The parade is a demonstration of strength for an external (Western) viewer, and for a Russian person it means a lot more, for example, the fact that the generations of Soviet people who created the Victory did not live in vain and took the right course, so the Parade also serves as a reminder to modern generations that we will back to this course (anti-globalism) again.
    Last edited by KirillMazur; 06-27-2020 at 02:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    There is one subtlety. The parade is a demonstration of strength for an external (Western) viewer, and for a Russian person it means a lot more, for example, the fact that the generations of Soviet people who created the Victory did not live in vain and took the right course, so the Parade also serves as a reminder to modern generations that we will back to this course (anti-globalism) again.
    Can you understand ... if one (non russian) still sees that kind of parade someway aggressive (= scary) ways ... supporting/rising internal nationalist/empire ideologies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Can you understand ... if one (non russian) still sees that kind of parade someway aggressive (= scary) ways ... supporting/rising internal nationalist/empire ideologies?
    Yes, in a certain sense, this Parade is a sign that we are not defeated and will continue to fight against the (unfavorable for us) current liberal world order and our place in the world division of labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    Yes, in a certain sense, this Parade is a sign that we are not defeated and will continue to fight against the (unfavorable for us) current liberal world order and our place in the world division of labor.
    Of course I was not talking about US or West as a whole ... just some small neighbours or yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Of course I was not talking about US or West as a whole ... just some small neighbours or yours.
    No offense, but I think that the organizers of the Parade are thinking about Finland last of all.
    In addition to focusing on their own population, they think of the West as a collective entity with a core in the United States and Western Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    No offense, but I think that the organizers of the Parade are thinking about Finland last of all.
    In addition to focusing on their own population, they think of the West as a collective entity with a core in the United States and Western Europe.
    I'm well aware of that ... especially as Finland's border is the least problematic (headache) to Russia.

    I was more like saying how your neighbornes might see that .... not how you in Russia.

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