Turkish YDNA distribution

**Dr_Maul** · 05-09-2020, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

There were Romani/Gypsy people in Turkey as well. Don't know how Turkified they are by now. Prolly monolingual Turkish speakers with Turkish names.

Yeah that's probably it, although I don't see Gypsy's as the type of people to get Turkified really, it was probably just a distant Romani ancestor a while ago (or could be more recent, who knows)

**Thambi** · 05-09-2020, 05:05 PM

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**Leto** · 05-09-2020, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Yeah that's probably it, although I don't see Gypsy's as the type of people to get Turkified really, it was probably just a distant Romani ancestor a while ago (or could be more recent, who knows)

Well, Turkey isn't a liberal society like the West, I don't think Gypsies have any privileges over there. They have to be Muslims and speak Turkish.

**~~Eline~~** · 05-09-2020, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

I really doubt that person with R2 is a native Turk

They found R2 in the very ancient Iranian NEO farmers.

R2 is just native to the Iranian Plateau.

**~~Eline~~** · 05-09-2020, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Halgurd

Why does Turkey have significant R1b? I've noticed Assyrians and Turks have high levels of R1b in the Middle East.

There is R1b in Central Africa. R1b entered Africa with agriculture from the Levant after the Neolithics. That means that R1b was already present in the Middle East since that time. So it is a very old haplogroup in the Middle East.

**Mejgusu** · 05-09-2020, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Eline

There is R1b in Central Africa. R1b entered Africa with agriculture from the Levant after the Neolithics. That means that R1b was already present in the Middle East since that time. So it is a very old haplogroup in the Middle East.

I bet R1b came from Aryan homeland Ararat.

Btw do you have a chart of Central anatolian turks? I probably have J2.

**~~Eline~~** · 05-09-2020, 05:22 PM

The most major original 'Gypsy' Y-DNA haplogroup is "H". H was present among the AASI and other very ancient Vedic/Dravidian people.

**Thambi** · 05-09-2020, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Eline

The most major original 'Gypsy' Y-DNA haplogroup is "H". H was present among the AASI and other very ancient Vedic/Dravidian people.

could some of the R1a be gypsy related as well? R1a is slightly more common than H in the subcontinent tbh. gypsies probably were a mix of both.

**Mejgusu** · 05-09-2020, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Thambi

could some of the R1a be gypsy related as well? R1a is slightly more common than H in the subcontinent tbh. gypsies probably were a mix of both.

Idk, but H is common in Romania in Romanis. Maybe original Romanis didnt have R1a, maybe they were lower cast people.

**Kyp** · 05-09-2020, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Thambi

could some of the R1a be gypsy related as well? R1a is slightly more common than H in the subcontinent tbh. gypsies probably were a mix of both.

Let's not overestimate the gypsy influence in Anatolia. There are different reasons for R1a in Turks appearing much more obvious. Also H wasn't detected in this set for Anatolian Turks.