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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    They are absolutely not. EEF alone are more distant to SSA than the Steppe. I know everybody believes that trying to flex in the autosomal section by showing they have more steppe but it's ironically the other way. It's been proven over and over in actual papers (but nobody reads them)
    Levant? Is it closer to ssa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    I can't even imagine that our ancestors were such people, it's amazing. Black blue-eyed devils)
    their skin was light brown probably, probably like native americans ironically enough, as the genetics simply says they didn't yet have white or even a more pale tan skin color yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    Levant? Is it closer to ssa?
    You are confusing two different ancestries. I posted the figures from academic papers.

    This is in increasing order of closeness to OOA or Basal Eurasian:

    27 Switzerland_HG
    33 SHG
    44 EHG
    46 ENF
    49 Anatolia_N
    52 Steppe EMBA
    52 ANE
    55 Levant_N
    61 Armenia EBA
    68 CHG
    68 Natufian
    82 Iran neolithic
    97 Iran Hotulllb


    Iran Hotulllb is closest to SSA.

    Levant neolithic is barely closer to SSA than ANE and Levant_N is not farmer ancestry although some south Italians/Balkan typically have a good chunk of it but not other Euros, they just have WHG+ENF (Pinarbasi-Villabruna derived). While the Steppe are better modeled with CHG or Iran_N it's still a lot of that same type of ancestry in there, which explains how Steppe EMBA is not that removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    You are confusing two different ancestries. I posted the figures from academic papers.

    This is in increasing order of closeness to OOA or Basal Eurasian:

    27 Switzerland_HG
    33 SHG
    44 EHG
    46 ENF
    49 Anatolia_N
    52 Steppe EMBA
    52 ANE
    55 Levant_N
    61 Armenia EBA
    68 CHG
    68 Natufian
    82 Iran neolithic
    97 Iran Hotulllb


    Iran Hotulllb is closest to SSA.

    Levant neolithic is barely closer to SSA than ANE and Levant_N is not farmer ancestry although some south Italians/Balkan typically have a good chunk of it but not other Euros, they just have WHG+ENF (Pinarbasi-Villabruna derived). While the Steppe are better modeled with CHG or Iran_N it's still a lot of that same type of ancestry in there, which explains how Steppe EMBA is not that removed.
    Is SSA something to be afraid of like fire?
    I believe that ane+whg are the main ancestors of Europeans. EEF and CHG are black people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russki View Post




    thank you, also how do I un-dislike something? I think I accidently disliked your post

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    Central Native Americans
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    This only shows distance to WHG. In G25 the difference in distance to SSA is begnin as long as a population doesn't have genuine recent African (even very low) but NE Europeans are clearly not more removed than the rest of Europe while having a lot more steppe, it's at least a matter of individual scores, on average even Cornwall is more distant to those few samples at the corners of Europe


    Distance to: Yoruba:HGDP00944
    0.75215226 Italian_Abruzzo:Alp090
    0.75867564 Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
    0.77178151 Finnish_East:HG00176
    0.77217394 Belarusian:Belarusian1
    0.77404883 Swedish:Sweden9
    0.77441220 English_Cornwall:HG00160
    0.78803159 Petalpusher

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    Ainu, Andanamese and Papua.

    I've zero interest in East Asians, Native Americans and Negros (except for Bushmen/Khoi San).
    Last edited by rothaer; 07-02-2023 at 11:40 AM.
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    Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085

    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Ainu, Andanamese and Papua.

    I've zero interest in East Asians, Native Americans and Negros (except Bushmen/Khoi San).
    I think it's easier for an american to be fascinated with native americans because a lot of our history in america even post settlement by our european ancestors involves our interactions with them, and the fact that they inhabited this continent long before and have left marks, and even names on it.

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