"Iberian's" 24Genetic Results!

[Grace O'Malley]

Seeing all the results as a whole , we can obtain some conclussions. We should not take a single estimation as the absolute truth. We must see always all those results as tendencies, same as electoral surveys. And specialy results which are apart from the norm, should not be discarded totally, but they should have less impact in our conclusions.

Yes tendencies. I'm nearly always Isles with some Scandinavian but my conclusion now is that this is just basically how some Irish breakdown in these tests. I look at it as more Bell Beaker like. I'm always willing to update my information when something new comes but I know they aren't picking up deep ancestry. The problem also is that we are being matched against modern population panels and another issue is that if you don't fit the samples that you are being matched against the algorithm will compensate by trying to find a population that matches your result. I am interested in deep ancestry because I'm just fully Irish so I have no recent ancestry from anywhere else as far as my papertrail goes. I would love if a test could tell you if you have ancestry from somewhere else 500 years ago or even going back much further. I think they could only do this if they had enough ancient genomes of good resolution and possibly with some IBD matching or if they carried something more rare that they could pinpoint and be able to see if people today could be matched.

With the studies that are being released now they are using ancient genomes and seeing what changes happened in populations over a period of time. This is good for population genetics to see if any invaders left a mark. Hopefully they will be able to do this in the future for individuals wanting to know if they had Norman ancestory or Inuit etc. That's the sort of thing I'd be interested in.

[Vojnik]

Ti si Makedonche.

You are Macedonian.

[gixajo]

Yes tendencies. I'm nearly always Isles with some Scandinavian but my conclusion now is that this is just basically how some Irish breakdown in these tests. I look at it as more Bell Beaker like. I'm always willing to update my information when something new comes but I know they aren't picking up deep ancestry. The problem also is that we are being matched against modern population panels and another issue is that if you don't fit the samples that you are being matched against the algorithm will compensate by trying to find a population that matches your result. I am interested in deep ancestry because I'm just fully Irish so I have no recent ancestry from anywhere else as far as my papertrail goes. I would love if a test could tell you if you have ancestry from somewhere else 500 years ago or even going back much further. I think they could only do this if they had enough ancient genomes of good resolution and possibly with some IBD matching or if they carried something more rare that they could pinpoint and be able to see if people today could be matched.

With the studies that are being released now they are using ancient genomes and seeing what changes happened in populations over a period of time. This is good for population genetics to see if any invaders left a mark. Hopefully they will be able to do this in the future for individuals wanting to know if they had Norman ancestory or Inuit etc. That's the sort of thing I'd be interested in.

Yeah, today´s genetic tools have a lot of limitations, maybe they will improve, specially discriminating ancient and modern inputs or as you say, being more accurate pointing every time input.

Is what we have for now, let´s have fun with what we have.

I like to see people that is practically full Irish, Hungarian or Finnish. In today´s world, they are endangered "species", even knowing than anyone is fully anything, or "pure", and taht is anything better than not being so "pure".

[Grace O'Malley]

Yeah, today´s genetic tools have a lot of limitations, maybe they will improve, specially discriminating ancient and modern inputs or as you say, being more accurate pointing every time input.

Is what we have for now, let´s have fun with what we have.

I like to see people that is practically full Irish, Hungarian or Finnish. In today´s world, they are endangered "species", even knowing than anyone is fully anything, or "pure", and taht is anything better than not being so "pure".

Yes it will be less common in the future. Even country towns in Ireland have plenty of "outsiders" now. Just the way things are in this globalised world.

[gixajo]

Yes it will be less common in the future. Even country towns in Ireland have plenty of "outsiders" now. Just the way things are in this globalised world.

In a globalized world, for now, maybe some things could change after covid-19.

Or maybe not...

[Luso]

Personally I wouldn't read too much into this report. I've had it done and it reminds me a bit of something you'd get on Gedmatch or Global25. I don't think any genetic test at the moment is really accurate for gauging old ancestry. I personally would like something like IBD analysis. Maybe in the future with more rare alleles they will be able to assess ancestry more accurately.

True. Even on Gedmatch I tend to score some extra Baltic/fennoscandinavia than the average Iberian which may skew my genetic tests at times.