Turkish Accents Thread

[Bender1999]

what accent do you speak with?
is it considered a nice accent in Turkey ?

All accents are nice. Personally i like Azerbaijani Turkish, i think the Oghuz languages are just dialects.

[Kyp]

Are you sure? We have way more Turkic terms.
Trust me they hate to be called like that. They call themselves only as Azerbaycanlı or Azerbaycan Türkü, never as Azeri.

Well we in Iran historically only called ourselves "Turk" and the language turkish. Nothing more nothing less.

For example for my grandmother "Azerbaijan" is nothing more than a province. She probably don't even know "Azerbaijani/Azeri" in a context of an ethnicity/language.

[Kyp]

All accents are nice. Personally i like Azerbaijani Turkish, i think the Oghuz languages are just dialects.

Are there still villages/older people who speak old Ottoman Turkish, which basically is the same as Azerbaijani Turkish?

[Bender1999]

Are there still villages/older people who speak old Ottoman Turkish, which basically is the same as Azerbaijani Turkish?

Many villagers speak old turkish, especially the very old people. But do you mean with ottoman turkish the language of the people or the language of the state?

I just can say, if those „villager“ turkish would have also letters like x or q. My grandma calls the TV sender fox „foch“ lol.There are also non azerbaijanis who has a dialect which sound familiar with Azerbaijani. I think, next 20 years the villager turkish with big vocabulary will die out.

[Kyp]

Many villagers speak old turkish, especially the very old people. But do you mean with ottoman turkish the language of the people or the language of the state?

I just can say, if those „villager“ turkish would have also letters like x or q. My grandma calls the TV sender fox „foch“ lol.There are also non azerbaijanis who has a dialect which sound familiar with Azerbaijani. I think, next 20 years the villager turkish with big vocabulary will die out.

Yes I meant the villagers. I suspected that one man ordering to change the vocabulary wouldn't have that much of an impact on regular village folks. But obviousy long-term it will.

[Bender1999]

Yes I meant the villagers. I suspected that one man ordering to change the vocabulary wouldn't have that much of an impact on regular village folks. But obviousy long-term it will.

Of course, the languge would change after long time, also because of the state(ottomans). But without schools or education, you wouldn’t have a bing impact from higher authorities. I think other thinks like those geographical isolatian etc were more important to name, or trade for example. If i read some textes of ashiqs from old time, it can be said that it is familat to turkish, but idk how they pronounced the terms.

Generally, not just because you said it, many thinks the modern turkish language was made in Atatürk era. My grandparents and grandgrand parents etc did not visited school, my grandma(rip) were illiterate. But all spoke that turkish what we know nowadays, just like central anatolian dialect. How they would learn this artifical turkish without visiting school? Very annoying misunderstanding.

[itilvolga]

Kinda off-topic but I wanna share a text example for the comparison of Cuman and Modern Turkish:

CUMAN
Bizim atamız kim-szing kökte
Szentlenszing szening ading
Düs-szün szening könglügüng
Necsik-kim dzserde alaj kökte
Bizing ekmegimizni ber bizge büt-bütün künde
Ilt bizing minimizni
Necsik-kim biz ijermiz bizge ötrü kelgenge
Iltme bizni ol dzsamanga
Kutkar bizni ol dzsamannan
Szen barszing bu kücsli bu csin ijgi Tengri, amen.

MODERN TURKISH
Bizim atamız ki sensin gökte
Şenlensin senin adın
Hoş olsun senin gönlün
Nasıl ki yerde ve tüm gökte
Bizim ekmeğimizi ver bize büsbütün günde
İlet bizim aklımızı
Nasıl ki biz boyun eğeriz bize emir gelince
İletme bizi her kötülüğe
Kurtar bizi her kötülükten
Sen varsın bu güçte bu yücelikte Tanrım, amin.

[Bender1999]

Kinda off-topic but I wanna share a text example for the comparison of Cuman and Modern Turkish:

CUMAN
Bizim atamız kim-szing kökte
Szentlenszing szening ading
Düs-szün szening könglügüng
Necsik-kim dzserde alaj kökte
Bizing ekmegimizni ber bizge büt-bütün künde
Ilt bizing minimizni
Necsik-kim biz ijermiz bizge ötrü kelgenge
Iltme bizni ol dzsamanga
Kutkar bizni ol dzsamannan
Szen barszing bu kücsli bu csin ijgi Tengri, amen.

MODERN TURKISH
Bizim atamız ki sensin gökte
Şenlensin senin adın
Hoş olsun senin gönlün
Nasıl ki yerde ve tüm gökte
Bizim ekmeğimizi ver bize büsbütün günde
İlet bizim aklımızı
Nasıl ki biz boyun eğeriz bize emir gelince
İletme bizi her kötülüğe
Kurtar bizi her kötülükten
Sen varsın bu güçte bu yücelikte Tanrım, amin.

I read that few months ago, i would lie if i would say i was not proud hahaha

But here 2 words from my dialect:

cuvara/cuğara=sigara
mırık (pronounced mırıx)= çamur= sludge

[itilvolga]

I read that few months ago, i would lie if i would say i was not proud hahaha

Enjoy this one, then

CUMAN
Atamız kim köktesiñ. Alğışlı bolsun seniñ atıñ, kelsin seniñ xanlığıñ, bolsun seniñ tilemekiñ – neçik kim kökte, alay [da] yerde. Kündeki ötmegimizni bizge bugün bergil. Dağı yazuqlarımıznı bizge boşatqıl – neçik biz boşatırbız bizge yaman etkenlerge. Dağı yekniñ sınamaqına bizni quurmağıl. Basa barça yamandan bizni qutxarğıl. Amen.

MODERN TURKISH
Atamız ki göktesin. Alkışlı olsun senin adın, gelsin senin hanlığın, olsun senin dilediğin – nice ki gökte, öyle de yerde. Gündelik ekmeğimizi bize bugün ver. Günahlarımızı bağışla – nice ki biz bağışlarız bize yamanlık edenleri. Ve kötülüğün sınamasından bizi kurtar. Tüm yamandan bizi kurtar. Amin.

[Bender1999]

Enjoy this one, then

CUMAN
Atamız kim köktesiñ. Alğışlı bolsun seniñ atıñ, kelsin seniñ xanlığıñ, bolsun seniñ tilemekiñ – neçik kim kökte, alay [da] yerde. Kündeki ötmegimizni bizge bugün bergil. Dağı yazuqlarımıznı bizge boşatqıl – neçik biz boşatırbız bizge yaman etkenlerge. Dağı yekniñ sınamaqına bizni quurmağıl. Basa barça yamandan bizni qutxarğıl. Amen.

Amin...