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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusT View Post
    Hahahaha, that's really ridiculous!!
    My friend is Irish and he has brown hair and hazel eyes but his skin is pasty and pale as fuck. He looks like a vampire.

    FOR SURE, Brazilians consider him to be non-European, for sure....
    Well, if he identifies as European, which he is, nobody here will think he is lying. But brown tones in hair and eyes aren't features Brazilians picture when thinking of Euro looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    Usually, in Brazil, light hair and eyes are associated with Europeans, not the dark tones.
    That is funny if true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    Well, if he identifies as European, which he is, nobody here will think he is lying. But brown tones in hair and eyes aren't features Brazilians picture when thinking of Euro looks.
    Sorry, but I don't really believe this. Brazilians usually learn at school that Brazil has been colonized by the Portuguese people who are from Europe.
    They also learn that the real natives of the region are the indigenous people. Shouldn't Brazilians know that "White people" aren't native to the Americas?

    I don't believe Brazilians usually picture Portuguese people as being blonde and blue-eyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusT View Post
    Sorry, but I don't really believe this. Brazilians usually learn at school that Brazil has been colonized by the Portuguese people who are from Europe.
    They also learn that the real natives of the region are the indigenous people. Shouldn't Brazilians know that "White people" aren't native to the Americas?

    I don't believe Brazilians usually picture Portuguese people as being blonde and blue-eyed.
    1: It's not a subjective opinion of mine, but a fact, to the average Brazilian, Euro looking = Nordish.

    2: Yes, everybody here learn at school that we were colonized by Portugal, but that doesn't mean all fully colonial white Brazilians are aware that their looks is Portuguese. Average people don't reflect about these stuffs. To them, having Euro ancestry = recent ancestors from Europe.

    Average Brazilians aren't even aware that common Portuguese surnames here, like Silva, Santos, Pereira, Moraes, Costa... are Portuguese/European, they just seem them as Brazilian, European surnames here = Italian (the ones that sound clearly distinct from Portuguese ones), German, etc.

    3: Brazilians don't picture Portuguese when thinking of Euro looks, they picture stereotypical Germans, Swedish, etc.

    4: Whether some Europeans like it or not, they would never be seen as European looking here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    4: Whether some Europeans like it or not, they would never be seen as European looking here.
    Speaking for myself, it doesn't bother me if brazilians would hypothetically think that i don't look european. But i find it funny, for many reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusT View Post
    LOL, they pass better in France and England than in Brazil.
    Dude, depending on the region almost everybody passes in Brazil, stop writing nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    1: It's not a subjective opinion of mine, but a fact, to the average Brazilian, Euro looking = Nordish.

    2: Yes, everybody here learn at school that we were colonized by Portugal, but that doesn't mean all fully colonial white Brazilians are aware that their looks is Portuguese. Average people don't reflect about these stuffs. To them, having Euro ancestry = recent ancestors from Europe.

    Average Brazilians aren't even aware that common Portuguese surnames here, like Silva, Santos, Pereira, Moraes, Costa... are Portuguese/European, they just seem them as Brazilian, European surnames here = Italian (the ones that sound clearly distinct from Portuguese ones), German, etc.

    3: Brazilians don't picture Portuguese when thinking of Euro looks, they picture stereotypical Germans, Swedish, etc.

    4: Whether some Europeans like it or not, they would never be seen as European looking here.
    Agreed. I was writting a more complete text about this, but the site erased all of it by the second time when I acidentally clicked "post quick reply".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Agreed. I was writting a more complete text about this, but the site erased all of it by the second time when I acidentally clicked "post quick reply".
    It happened to some of the best posts I ever wrote...that's why I keep them short and simple now.

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    Haha I have the same impression, everytime this happens I pass 15 hours without visit the forum. I hate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandeirante View Post
    portuguese in brazil: rio!

    são paulo: italian and spanish!
    There were always large numbers of Portuguese in São Paulo state, but the presence of large numbers of Italians and Spaniards in SP did make them stand out less. Below are the numbers from the census of Portuguese-born individuals in each state. In Rio, they were the overwhelming majority of foreign-born individuals, so they were more prominent in the city and its environs. After 1945, however Portuguese immigrants preferred SP to Rio de Janeiro, but even earlier on they were numerous.

    Portuguese-Born by census year
    1970
    RJ: 192.138
    SP: 214.021

    1950
    RJ: 155.070
    SP: 151.320

    1920
    RJ: 200.999
    SP: 167.198

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