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    I have a question what do you guys think the men who first carried the mutations on their Y-Chromosome that resulted in the haplogroups found in modern day humans today may have looked like. For example what do you think the first men and guys belonging to R1* may have looked like and what they might pass as today and how do you think they could be classified

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown European View Post
    the first men and guys belonging to R1* may have looked like and what they might pass as today and how do you think they could be classified
    R1 or R*, it is hg of Japheth, and he probably looked just like average northern European, otherwise,
    his descendants rather wouldn't be fair, as today they are not on the south, in Latin America, in parts
    of Africa, in India aso - there, were they mixed with other races, which were phenotypically dominant.
    So, the obvious conclusion is, that he had to look like northerner, and his wife too.
    Btw, according to the legends not only he was fair, but also his father was very light.

    More: https://static.wixstatic.com/media/3...Cq_80/file.png
    I would change here only I and maybe C for more dark people.
    At the time, there were no accurate pictures. But now they are.

    Beneath my guess how founding forefathers of main hgs could look like.
    The least I am sure of the T, as it is not known what this people actually
    were - could be something between this and Middle Eastern type.
    I divided the R1 only, becasue I needed a parity number.


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    Last edited by Rethel; 11-11-2020 at 11:11 PM.

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    The father of R1



    Every other haplogroup's forefather


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    Every Eurasian group is a product of CT and CT looked like Barack Obama dipped in dark chocolate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EM78GREENSAVANNAH View Post
    Every Eurasian group is a product of CT and CT looked like Barack Obama dipped in dark chocolate.
    In this case better is talking about first man ever, but it is was not the question, which OP stated.

    Btw, majority of basic haplrotree is just a mess, so I wouldn't be
    so sure, that CT is ancestral to anyone, maybe except of C and T.

    How massed it is, shows the fact, that E, J and R should be descendned from
    one common ancestor of all humankind in +/- equal manner. They're don't.
    A-D should be even lower in this scheme, so, don't put so much trust in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    R1 or R*, it is hg of Japheth, and he probably looked just like average northern European, otherwise,
    his descendants rather wouldn't be fair, as today they are not on the south, in Latin America, in parts
    of Africa, in India aso - there, were they mixed with other races, which were phenotypically dominant.
    So, the obvious conclusion is, that he had to look like northerner, and his wife too.
    Btw, according to the legends not only he was fair, but also his father was very light.

    More: https://static.wixstatic.com/media/3...Cq_80/file.png
    I would change here only I and maybe C for more dark people.
    At the time, there were no accurate pictures. But now they are.

    Beneath my guess how founding forefathers of main hgs could look like.
    The least I am sure of the T, as it is not known what this people actually
    were - could be something between this and Middle Eastern type.
    I divided the R1 only, becasue I needed a parity number.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    R1 or R*, it is hg of Japheth, and he probably looked just like average northern European, otherwise,
    his descendants rather wouldn't be fair, as today they are not on the south, in Latin America, in parts
    of Africa, in India aso - there, were they mixed with other races, which were phenotypically dominant.
    So, the obvious conclusion is, that he had to look like northerner, and his wife too.
    Btw, according to the legends not only he was fair, but also his father was very light.

    More: https://static.wixstatic.com/media/3...Cq_80/file.png
    I would change here only I and maybe C for more dark people.
    At the time, there were no accurate pictures. But now they are.

    Beneath my guess how founding forefathers of main hgs could look like.
    The least I am sure of the T, as it is not known what this people actually
    were - could be something between this and Middle Eastern type.
    I divided the R1 only, becasue I needed a parity number.


    haplotypyy.png
    Lol at I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    R1 or R*, it is hg of Japheth, and he probably looked just like average northern European, otherwise,
    his descendants rather wouldn't be fair, as today they are not on the south, in Latin America, in parts
    of Africa, in India aso - there, were they mixed with other races, which were phenotypically dominant.
    So, the obvious conclusion is, that he had to look like northerner, and his wife too.
    Btw, according to the legends not only he was fair, but also his father was very light.

    More: https://static.wixstatic.com/media/3...Cq_80/file.png
    I would change here only I and maybe C for more dark people.
    At the time, there were no accurate pictures. But now they are.

    Beneath my guess how founding forefathers of main hgs could look like.
    The least I am sure of the T, as it is not known what this people actually
    were - could be something between this and Middle Eastern type.
    I divided the R1 only, becasue I needed a parity number.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    "Muh R1 Vikingzzzzzzzzzzz"
    Reality: Vikings 70% I1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    "Muh R1 Vikingzzzzzzzzzzz"
    Reality: Vikings 70% I1
    Vikings I1, Anglo-Saxons R1

    Nordisch-Westisch or Westisch mit Nordische einschlag
    In other words: Atlantid type

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