Classify French actor Gaspard Ulliel

[XenophobicPrussian]

I m pretty sure you can find similar Balkan people with that look those two are rocking

lol, what's your point? There's Balkanites that can pass in NW Europe. Also, any specific examples? Are you suggesting Brown is Pontid(Serbs Danijel Aleksic, Aleksandar Kolarov or Russian Artem Lobov are good example of Pontids, Brown looks far closer to people we've agreed on being Atlantid before than either of those)? The guy in the OP, who you called Atlantid with "minor" Dinarid, looks more Balkan than either of those guys, and Matt Brown is British Isles descended, while Riepert is actually from NW Germany. The problem is when you get Turks being posted who look nothing like western Europeans/French, let alone Brits as "Atlantid", the guys I posted are not exotic at all.

[Immanenz]

lol, what's your point? There's Balkanites that can pass in NW Europe. Also, any specific examples? Are you suggesting Brown is Pontid(Serbs Danijel Aleksic, Aleksandar Kolarov or Russian Artem Lobov are good example of Pontids, Brown looks far closer to people we've agreed on being Atlantid before than either of those)? The guy in the OP, who you called Atlantid with "minor" Dinarid, looks more Balkan than either of those guys, and Matt Brown is British Isles descended, while Riepert is actually from NW Germany. The problem is when you get Turks being posted who look nothing like western Europeans/French, let alone Brits as "Atlantid", the guys I posted are not exotic at all.

Yeah- Milos Degenek would be a decent Atlantid example, if his nose would not be that prominent.
I see you have a strict definition of Atlantid being a robust Aurignacoid form with eye orbits that are similar to cm types. But classifying people because they look more western than eastern or whatever is something highly subjective.
He cant be pred Noric, because they are brachy/short headed etc., nevermind the silly debatte if he looks Western or Eastern. He has some slight borealized eyes, which might be for you "Eastern" but thats if you digg deeper not true (Subnordids in NW of Europe can have it for example.) Also borealized eyes are not traits of true Dinarids, they can appear narrow however on some cases.
Also there is no point of using a term like Atlantid only for people who look British. I m pretty sure not even there most people would fall into this strict schemeta, since not all look like textbook example Barry Murphy from St. Patricks Athletic

[XenophobicPrussian]

Yeah- Milos Degenek would be a decent Atlantid example, if his nose would not be that prominent.
I see you have a strict definition of Atlantid being a robust Aurignacoid form with eye orbits that are similar to cm types. But classifying people because they look more western than eastern or whatever is something highly subjective.
He cant be pred Noric, because they are brachy/short headed etc., nevermind the silly debatte if he looks Western or Eastern. He has some slight borealized eyes, which might be for you "Eastern" but thats if you digg deeper not true (Subnordids in NW of Europe can have it for example.) Also borealized eyes are not traits of true Dinarids, they can appear narrow however on some cases.
Also there is no point of using a term like Atlantid only for people who look British. I m pretty sure not even there most people would fall into this strict schemeta, since not all look like textbook example Barry Murphy from St. Patricks Athletic

These are not borealized eyes.







Borealized eyes:





OP's eye shape literally peaks in a place like Iran or the Caucasus(although obviously he doesn't look like them, but that one feature does). I didn't say he's pred. Noric, I said he's half Noric half Atlanto-Med. His face isn't even that long, it's intermediary, which makes sense for a short faced Noric+Atlanto-Med. Dinarids absolutely do have those kind of "Iranic" or pseudo MENA eyes.






(former Albanian PM)

(De Niro)

Honestly we usually agree on phenotype classification and have talked about how weird some people's classifications are. Your arguments sound like something explaining why Turkish Atlantids are actually a thing. Maybe you've been talking to Kivan a bit too much, lol. I wholy disagree with everything you said, "Western vs Eastern" is not a silly debate, it's one of the easiest and least subjective things to be able to tell from looking at someone. Daniel Craig may be 100% British, but he's still phenotypically a textbook eastern Euro phenotypically. Atlantids peak in Britain, even the person who made the term said so. If you can't pass in Britain, you can't be an Atlantid. That just seems like common sense to me.

I agree Brian Barry Murphy is about as textbook Atlantid as you can get, amazing example. Denegek is also a great example of Atlantid+Dinarid.

[Grace O'Malley]

Had to look up Brian Barry Murphy to see what he looked like. So he's an example of textbook Atlantid.







A lot of people classified as Atlantids on here are apparently not Atlantids then. He looks in a similar vein to Pierce Brosnan and Ben Affleck.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Had to look up Brian Barry Murphy to see what he looked like. So he's an example of textbook Atlantid.







A lot of people classified as Atlantids on here are apparently not Atlantids then. He looks in a similar vein to Pierce Brosnan and Ben Affleck.

I mean, it depends who you ask I guess.

Some people will tell you(and have) that this is Atlantid:





The guy who invented the term called this guy an Atlantid(he's Welsh, looks pretty normal Welsh too although the bad quality, black and white photo isn't very clear), you can make up your own mind which it should be:

(looks like Clark Kent/the Smallville actor to me)
Examples of Hooton's "Nordo-Mediterannean" which is supposed to be the same thing


(again, British Isles looking)
Although I will say if Pierce Brosnan is "North Atlantid" and Murphy is "Atlantid" the North Atlantid term needs to cease usage immediately. They're the exact same type, only single difference is eye colour. It's not enough, so I also consider Pierce Brosnan an Atlantid.

[Grace O'Malley]

I mean, it depends who you ask I guess.

Some people will tell you(and have) that this is Atlantid:





The guy who invented the term called this guy an Atlantid(he's Welsh, looks pretty normal Welsh too although the bad quality, black and white photo isn't very clear), you can make up your own mind which it should be:

(looks like Clark Kent/the Smallville actor to me)
Examples of Hooton's "Nordo-Mediterannean" which is supposed to be the same thing


(again, British Isles looking)
Although I will say if Pierce Brosnan is "North Atlantid" and Murphy is "Atlantid" the North Atlantid term needs to cease usage immediately. They're the exact same type, only single difference is eye colour. It's not enough, so I also consider Pierce Brosnan an Atlantid.

Yes I agree about Pierce Brosnan, he and Murphy could be brothers as they have very similar facial structure. The woman above doesn't look like Murphy and Brosnan and obviously has a more southern influence. I think Atlantid is obviously overly used here for people.

[Immanenz]

These are not borealized eyes.







Borealized eyes:





OP's eye shape literally peaks in a place like Iran or the Caucasus(although obviously he doesn't look like them, but that one feature does). I didn't say he's pred. Noric, I said he's half Noric half Atlanto-Med. His face isn't even that long, it's intermediary, which makes sense for a short faced Noric+Atlanto-Med. Dinarids absolutely do have those kind of "Iranic" or pseudo MENA eyes.






(former Albanian PM)

(De Niro)

Honestly we usually agree on phenotype classification and have talked about how weird some people's classifications are. Your arguments sound like something explaining why Turkish Atlantids are actually a thing. Maybe you've been talking to Kivan a bit too much, lol. I wholy disagree with everything you said, "Western vs Eastern" is not a silly debate, it's one of the easiest and least subjective things to be able to tell from looking at someone. Daniel Craig may be 100% British, but he's still phenotypically a textbook eastern Euro phenotypically. Atlantids peak in Britain, even the person who made the term said so. If you can't pass in Britain, you can't be an Atlantid. That just seems like common sense to me.

I agree Brian Barry Murphy is about as textbook Atlantid as you can get, amazing example. Denegek is also a great example of Atlantid+Dinarid.

Well, i said that Dinarids can have narrow eyes, which i think we both pretty much agree on as i see your examples. I respect your definition of Atlantid and i also agree it peaks in Britain- and pops up in individuals who have strongly "Aurignacoid Cm Nordoid features, while you would dismiss the term Atlantid for individual who show stronger Dinaric or Alpine traits.
And also the guys you posted do show well borealization, although its on a pretty mild basis and the 1st one has other influences that pop up in Nordoid individuals throughout North Europe. Very extreme cases would be Badstuber, who indeed is Baltid influenced.
btw i did not want to fight about correct classification or to "defend mine". I would be the first one who would say that there is a difference between Atlantid proper and Med altered by Nordoid influences- so yes, the way you see Atlantid is certainly more precise than the way i used it in this case.

[Immanenz]

I mean, it depends who you ask I guess.

Some people will tell you(and have) that this is Atlantid:





The guy who invented the term called this guy an Atlantid(he's Welsh, looks pretty normal Welsh too although the bad quality, black and white photo isn't very clear), you can make up your own mind which it should be:

(looks like Clark Kent/the Smallville actor to me)
Examples of Hooton's "Nordo-Mediterannean" which is supposed to be the same thing


(again, British Isles looking)
Although I will say if Pierce Brosnan is "North Atlantid" and Murphy is "Atlantid" the North Atlantid term needs to cease usage immediately. They're the exact same type, only single difference is eye colour. It's not enough, so I also consider Pierce Brosnan an Atlantid.

well, she is certainly not Atlantid. Thats certainly not what i was implying. And yes, those examples from Hooton are very good textbook exampless. Where do you see Jonathan Rhys Myers for example? He is certainly altered by a reduced/borrealized up.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anth....html#p1866945
this guy does not look either like a proper Atlantid

[Xacal]

North Atlantid + Dinarid

R.I.P.

[guyinsf]

So sad he just died from a skiing accident.