Ideal future of Belgium?

[TheForeigner]

Considering there is some ethnic and political tension between Walloons and Flemings and that they haven't got along that well for generations and that Belgium is essentially an artificial state and not a true nation state and lacks the cohesion that even Switzerland has, what would be the best solution for this country's future? Personally I think it should hold plebiscites for independence in Wallonia and Flanders and ultimately Wallonia would unite with France, while Flanders might form an independent republic or join the Netherlands. I personally think the Dutch, British and other Europeans still under monarchical rule should abolish their monarchies and establish republics. Netherlands and Flanders could for a federation on the Swiss or German model. What do you guys think? Poll coming up.

[TheForeigner]

I have to say the future place of Brussels would be a big problem, if the country gets divided. It's bilingual and predominantly French speaking and also surrounded by Flemish land, being a former Flemish town.

[TheForeigner]

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[The Lawspeaker]

"A strong Netherlands in a strong Europe !"

(including Brussels and the Voerstreek).

And, Foreigner ? I agree with you: I think we should scrap the monarchy and opt for a confederal republic, modelled on the Swiss model with States' Rights being granted to all provinces.

[Sheva]

They have massive immigration problems and bicker about trivial matters like this? Truly Europeans of today in a nutshell. The rivalry of the past are but frivolous affairs in presence of the grand elephant in the room.

[TheForeigner]

They have massive immigration problems and bicker about trivial matters like this? Truly Europeans of today in a nutshell. The rivalry of the past are but frivolous affairs in presence of the grand elephant in the room.

You are right that the immigration issue is the most important by far, but one doesn't just forget one's nationality. I think Belgium should have been partitioned peacefully a long time ago, the way they did it in Czechoslovakia.

[sean]

They have no future. The old generation already died off and are replaced with a new generation.



Belgium is like watching an abusive couple stay together as they hate everyone else more than their own toxic relationship together. In Belgium most people do as little as possible, and people will never take more responsibility than they are required to in their work contract. This attitude leads to the insane bureaucracy in Belgium that you don't want to import into your country. Look at what Belgium's most famous son has to say.



Belgium and the Netherlands are the root of a large portion of the migrants. The area Ghent-Antwerp-Leuven-Brussels is totally urbanised and migrants are also moving from the cities to that area. In the east they have a lot of durks with dual citizenship. The only migrant free zones are West-Vlaanderen, Brabant-Wallon and Luxembourg. However, Flemish nationalists will in all probability have a majority in the Flemish parliament in a couple of years. Two Flemish nationalist parties N-VA and Vlaams Belang won more seats last election. I think they will have more than 50% seats in 2024 and might organise an referendum for independence.

So we'll see what happens next.

[Zeno]

[Ford]

Absorbed by actual nations such as France and Netherlands.

[The Lawspeaker]

Ik heb getwijfeld over België (as the famous 1980s song goes: I have had my doubts about Belgium) but now I am sure: "Belgium" is a joke. A complete and utter joke. Good for a joke and a laugh but a never-ending source of drama for us here on the other side of the border.