View Poll Results: What would be the ideal future of Belgium

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  • Partition along ethnolinguistic lines and creation of independent states?

    1 7.14%
  • Partition, but followed by union of Wallonia with France and an independent Flanders?

    0 0%
  • Partition and then union of Wallonia with France and also of Flanders with the Netherlands?

    9 64.29%
  • Keep Belgium as united or rather federal state?

    4 28.57%
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    Partition and then union of Wallonia with France and also of Flanders with the Netherlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    On a personal note: a unified Brabant, Limburg and Flanders would be great way to balance out the Netherlands. That way those arrogant Hollanders will no longer the sole ruling power.
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    Wasn't sure if Walloon Brabant is part of historic Brabant so I wasn't sure if it should've been included or not. Just included it cause of its name, but its pretty easy to remove. I merged Drenthe with Overijssel since they were historically together under the name Oversticht. Groningen speaks East Frisian Saxon (similar to East Frisians of Germany) so I merged it with Friesland cause of their shared Frisian past.

    How does it look? Its supposed to represent the historic provinces of the Netherlands.

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    I don’t understand why non-Belgians are so much interested in the partition of Belgium. Belgium is already a federal state.

    And Vlaanderen will not join Nederland. After Napoleon Vlaanderen and Nederland were 1 country. But it didn't work out. We are different from each other. Since 1830 it is a separated state

    Also, unification doesn't even matter since both countries are part of the European Union and the BENELUX.

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    Remain Belgium. Ethno-nationalism is overrated and outdated. Just because Walloons speak French or Flemish Dutch doesn't make them in mentality, way of life or historical experiences kin with other Dutch or French. Pretty sure they would feel alien and different in these countries because they have been their own thing with their own history for enough long time.

    Also, screw Republics. Most stable and best countries in Europe are Monarchies. Fuck the French Revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
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    I don't understand why a Central Asian Pashtun living in America is interested in the partition of Belgium? You gain nothing even if Vlaanderen en Nederland become a country. Your country of origin will still be a third world country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Made the map:



    Wasn't sure if Walloon Brabant is part of historic Brabant so I wasn't sure if it should've been included or not. Just included it cause of its name, but its pretty easy to remove. I merged Drenthe with Overijssel since they were historically together under the name Oversticht. Groningen speaks East Frisian Saxon (similar to East Frisians of Germany) so I merged it with Friesland cause of their shared Frisian past.

    How does it look? Its supposed to represent the historic provinces of the Netherlands.

    Comes close enough but it's not likely that Waals-Brabant would be included. Before the Eighty Years' War, Zeeuws-Vlaanderen (the area just south of the Westerschelde) use to be part of Flanders as well. The Dutch kept on to it for strategic reasons and now it has been included into Zeeland Province (so if Flanders would rejoin the Netherlands, I'd say that it would be fair if this would be returned to them). Het Oversticht got separated a long time ago into Drenthe and Overijssel. Friesland should also be seperated into two provinces: Friesland and Groningen.



    Wake up and smell the coffee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eline View Post
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    I don't understand why a Central Asian Pashtun living in America is interested in the partition of Belgium? You gain nothing even if Vlaanderen en Nederland become a country. Your country of origin will still be a third world country.
    Just made the map for fun. I voted for the partition but I don't care if it happens or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Just made the map for fun. I voted for the partition but I don't care if it happens or not.
    What is your problem with Belgium? What do you care whether Vlaanderen en Nederland become 1 country or not.

    It was already 1 country in the past, but it dint work out. Dutch people are different from us. I love Dutch people, mostly the Frisians, but we are more refined.

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    Vlaanderen is a FEDERAL state. And it has already very, very close ties with the Netherlands through the European Union and the BENELUX.

    People here are very low educated and don't know what they are talking about. Crazy people!

    Btw, don't start about the education, since education in Belgium is 1 of the very best in the whole world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eline View Post
    What is your problem with Belgium? What do you care whether Vlaanderen en Nederland become 1 country or not.

    It was already 1 country in the past, but it dint work out. Dutch people are different from us. I love Dutch people, mostly the Frisians, but we are more refined.
    I voted for the partition because I think it makes more sense for countries to be divided based on ethnolinguistics.

    But I don't really care if it stays united. I don't have a vested interest in the issue. I wasn't the one that started the thread.

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