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    Massacres of Macedonians by Bulgarians during WW1 and WW2

    Масакр во Долгаец
    https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C...B0%D0%B5%D1%86

    Масакр кај Дабница
    https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C...86%D0%B0,_1942

    Масакр кај Дервишка Нива
    https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C...B8%D0%B2%D0%B0

    Масакр во Ваташа
    https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C...B0%D1%88%D0%B0

    Масакр кај Пуста Кула
    https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C...83%D0%BB%D0%B0

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    CIA document of BULGARIAN COMMUNISTS ACTING AGAINST MACEDONIAN GUERRILLA UNITS

    https://www.cia.gov/library/readingr...00400112-2.pdf


    CIA document of Bulgarian Communist purge of Macedonians participating in Tito-Dimitrov pact

    https://www.cia.gov/library/readingr...00430004-8.pdf

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    https://mk.wikipedia.org/

    Sources in the pages :

    "Српска академија наука и уметности"
    „Македонска енциклопедија“
    „Македонска нација"

    All of the rest sources are from Macedonia or Serbia too.

    When I googled the towns in English different info about them popped up :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolgaec
    "The population of the village was massacred in the First World War, by the occupying Ottoman Army."

    http://wikimapia.org/30364779/Dabnica-Massacre
    "Monument dedicated to the Dabnica Massacre 1942. Bulgarian policeman Ivan Stefanov Nedelchev writes his poem: To the heroes in Dabnica."

    When googling Dervishka niva there are only Bulgarian and Macedonian ones. Here is what the Bulgarian one says :
    https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A...B8%D0%B2%D0%B0
    "Клането в Дервишка нива е убийството на 103 сърбомански свещеници, учители, кметове, членове на комитети, войводи и четници от областта Поречие, Вардарска Македония, извършено от български войници от Македония, начело с капитан Константин Панов..."
    "Dervishka niva massacre is the killing of 103 serboman priests, teachers, mayors, committee members, vojvodas and chetniks from the region Porechie, Vardar Macedonia, done by Bulgarian soldiers led by captain Konstantin Panov..."

    About Vatasha, the only English result in google on a similar topic was this one :
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikve%C5%A1_uprising
    "Tikvesh uprising (Bulgarian: Тиквешко въстание, Macedonian: Тиквешко востание, Serbian: Тиквешки устанак / Tikveški ustanak) was an uprising in the Tikveš region of Macedonia in late June 1913. It was organized by Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization (IMRO) against the Serbian troops in Vardar Macedonia during the Second Balkan War."

    About Pusta kula this was the only English one:
    http://wikimapia.org/31954646/Massacre-of-Pusta-Kula
    "8 people killed by bulgarian police on September the 14th, 1942."

    If you don't believe me, google the town names in English. That's pretty much the only results you will get.

    While searching another page popped up - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...orth_Macedonia

    One of the three that happened before the 2000s was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Christmas_(1945)
    "The Bloody Christmas (Bulgarian: Кървава Коледа, Kărvava Koleda; Macedonian: Крвава Коледа, Krvava Koleda) or the Bloody Bozhik (Bulgarian: Кървав Божик, Kărvav Bozhik; Macedonian: Крвав Божиќ, Krvav Božiḱ) was a campaign in which several hundred people of Macedonian Bulgarian descent were killed as collaborationists by the Yugoslav communist authorities in the Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia between 7–9 January 1945.[1] Thousands of others who retained their pro-Bulgarian sympathies suffered severe repression as a result.[2]"

    This topic was not pleasant to research, but I just can't stay here and watch a thread about "Bulgar terror in Macedonia" with 5 links showing articles written in Macedonian with only Macedonian and Serbian sources, while the English results show a very different picture.
    Last edited by -Invictus-; 05-18-2020 at 04:00 AM.

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    Bog da im prosti. Nema da zaboravime zloto od Bugarite.

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    Song about the massacre in the Village of Vatasha.



    Ми заплакало селото, селото Ваташа,
    ми заплакало селото, селото Ваташа,
    тринаесет роса младинци носат
    Мокришко горе, в долови.

    Целото село станало, станало на нога,
    целото село станало, станало на нога:
    - Дајте ги ваму нашите деца,
    еј, вие клети крвници!

    Џелати клети не слушат, не слушат народот,
    џелати клети не слушат, не слушат народот,
    митралез оган фрлија поган
    в' градите машки младински.

    Тогај се народ подигна, подигна илјадно,
    тогај се народ подигна, подигна илјадно,
    и тргна смело да запре семе
    фашисто-клето за навек.

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    Partial transription of the trial for war crimes of Asen Bogdanov, former
    head of police of the Skopje area (during the Bulgarian occupation), which
    took place on November 21, 1948 in Skopje



    http://www.makedonika.org/history/20...20Bogdanov.pdf

    Public Prosecutor:
    - Why did the accused Bogdanov, upon coming to Macedonia, got the
    impression that the Bulgarian authorities cannot deal with the Movement for
    Liberation?
    Asen Bogdanov:
    - I got that impression in the second half of 1943, because the Bulgarian
    authorities were totally powerless, having no support by the people. The
    Macedonian people, except a small percentage, was in a bad mood towards and
    considered the Bulgarian authorities as an enemy. The people produced the
    participants in the Movement. The systematic growth of the number of those
    persons was evident, and the Bulgarian authorities had the support of just a few
    individuals.
    Public Prosecutor:
    - What were your impressions regarding the nationality of the Macedonian
    people upon your arrival in Macedonija?
    Asen Bogdanov:
    - Before I came to Macedonia I was under the impression that here there really
    is a Bulgarian element. That notion was planted in our minds for years: that
    Macedonia belongs to Bulgaria, that those people are Bulgarian, that the
    Bulgarian Empire existed here. It was a great surprise to me. I realized that the
    Bulgarian element was present only in few wealthy persons, who came close to
    the Bulgarian authorities, a handful of intellectuals that belong to the
    organization of our people. All others lived with the notion about their
    nationality, about their heritage - that they are Macedonians.
    Juror:
    - Who organized the special forces for bulgarisation of the Macedonian
    people?
    Asen Bogdanov:
    - They were organized by a decision of the Council of Ministers, under direct
    control of the Ministry of Interior.
    Juror:
    - What was required from the persons sent by the Bulgarian administrative and
    police machinery?
    Asen Bogdanov:
    - They had to be abundant with the notion for bulgarisation of the Macedonian
    people and for keeping of these parts, at any cost, under Bulgarian rule. They
    had to have the qualities of fighters against the Movement for People's
    Liberation.
    Juror:
    - Did they meet the expectations of their superiors who sent them to
    Macedonia?
    Asen Bogdanov:
    - Yes.
    Juror:
    - How?
    Asen Bogdanov:
    - With the struggle they lead and the unconditional application of the
    Bulgarian government's measures of terror, liquidation, execution, arson etc.
    Juror:
    - Who did the killings: was it the military or the police?
    Asen Bogdanov:
    - Both.
    Juror:
    - How were they killed: by hanging, slaughter or shooting?
    Asen Bogdanov:
    - There were shootings, some died after being beaten to death, and some after
    being thrown into Vardar [river].

    Source: Jovan Pavlovski, "Sudenjata kako posleden poraz", ("Trials as a last
    defeat"), second edition, 1979,
    Publisher: "Centar za informiranje i izdavachka dejnost "Polog" - Tetovo

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Invictus- View Post
    In Aegean Macedonia

    http://www.grreporter.info/en/bulgar...s_greece/12020

    Bulgaria has never apologized for the massacres in occupied parts of Greece






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    Quote Originally Posted by -Invictus- View Post
    https://mk.wikipedia.org/

    Sources in the pages :

    "Српска академија наука и уметности"
    „Македонска енциклопедија“
    „Македонска нација"

    All of the rest sources are from Macedonia or Serbia too.

    When I googled the towns in English different info about them popped up :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolgaec
    "The population of the village was massacred in the First World War, by the occupying Ottoman Army."

    http://wikimapia.org/30364779/Dabnica-Massacre
    "Monument dedicated to the Dabnica Massacre 1942. Bulgarian policeman Ivan Stefanov Nedelchev writes his poem: To the heroes in Dabnica."

    When googling Dervishka niva there are only Bulgarian and Macedonian ones. Here is what the Bulgarian one says :
    https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A...B8%D0%B2%D0%B0
    "Клането в Дервишка нива е убийството на 103 сърбомански свещеници, учители, кметове, членове на комитети, войводи и четници от областта Поречие, Вардарска Македония, извършено от български войници от Македония, начело с капитан Константин Панов..."
    "Dervishka niva massacre is the killing of 103 serboman priests, teachers, mayors, committee members, vojvodas and chetniks from the region Porechie, Vardar Macedonia, done by Bulgarian soldiers led by captain Konstantin Panov..."

    About Vatasha, the only English result in google on a similar topic was this one :
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikve%C5%A1_uprising
    "Tikvesh uprising (Bulgarian: Тиквешко въстание, Macedonian: Тиквешко востание, Serbian: Тиквешки устанак / Tikveški ustanak) was an uprising in the Tikveš region of Macedonia in late June 1913. It was organized by Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization (IMRO) against the Serbian troops in Vardar Macedonia during the Second Balkan War."

    About Pusta kula this was the only English one:
    http://wikimapia.org/31954646/Massacre-of-Pusta-Kula
    "8 people killed by bulgarian police on September the 14th, 1942."

    If you don't believe me, google the town names in English. That's pretty much the only results you will get.

    While searching another page popped up - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...orth_Macedonia

    One of the three that happened before the 2000s was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Christmas_(1945)
    "The Bloody Christmas (Bulgarian: Кървава Коледа, Kărvava Koleda; Macedonian: Крвава Коледа, Krvava Koleda) or the Bloody Bozhik (Bulgarian: Кървав Божик, Kărvav Bozhik; Macedonian: Крвав Божиќ, Krvav Božiḱ) was a campaign in which several hundred people of Macedonian Bulgarian descent were killed as collaborationists by the Yugoslav communist authorities in the Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia between 7–9 January 1945.[1] Thousands of others who retained their pro-Bulgarian sympathies suffered severe repression as a result.[2]"

    This topic was not pleasant to research, but I just can't stay here and watch a thread about "Bulgar terror in Macedonia" with 5 links showing articles written in Macedonian with only Macedonian and Serbian sources, while the English results show a very different picture.
    Don't worry, there's more to come.

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