Romanians/Bulgarians Slavicness

[Jana]

Ah so, it's not representative at all basically. But it's still better than nothing I guess.

Much better than current averages some of which are based on 1 sample.

[vbnetkhio]

Ah so, it's not representative at all basically. But it's still better than nothing I guess.

compare the 2 PCAs:

with the Vahaduo Bulgarian averages:


with these new ones:



The new Bulgarian cluster already makes much more sense. it will only get better with more results.

[Ion Basescul]

compare the 2 PCAs:

with the Vahaduo Bulgarian averages:


with these new ones:



The new Bulgarian cluster already makes much more sense. it will only get better with more results.

Well, yes, it's definitely better than the old ones, if you guys are saying that those are made from one sample. But there's more work to be done for it to be considered representative. For example, I'm not even entirely comfortable with 100 samples for each region in Romania and Moldova. I would like to have at least 50 for each county/district and then I'd feel more comfortable about them being representative.

[Mingle]

i made Bulgarian regional averages based on these borders:


mostly from the Bulgarian results posted by Kaspias on this forum.

Bulgarian_central,22.44,22.94,18.65,11.23,19.38,2.61,0.47,0.13,1.05,0.59,0.40,0.09,0.18
Bulgarian_Moesia,20.07,26.86,16.65,12.83,18.50,2.11,0.54,0.28,1.07,0.20,0.69,0.29,0.23
Bulgarian_northwest,20.43,28.99,17.57,9.97,17.06,2.34,0.82,0.43,0.97,0.67,0.78,0.00,0.00
Bulgarian_southwest,24.57,23.99,17.24,10.73,18.29,2.36,0.20,0.76,1.53,0.33,0.38,0.00,0.21
Bulgarian_Thrace,20.45,21.84,17.08,14.89,20.14,3.06,0.85,0.25,0.24,0.30,0.19,0.24,0.04
Bulgarian,21.59,24.93,17.44,11.93,18.68,2.50,0.57,0.37,0.97,0.42,0.49,0.12,0.13

also, some related groups:

Gagauz,19.35,23.14,17.99,12.57,21.48,2.90,0.52,0.25,0.69,0.40,0.64,0.06,0.00
Torbesh,21.55,17.67,22.34,10.48,23.69,2.25,0.00,0.51,0.48,0.79,0.25,0.00,0.00
Aromanian,22.79,20.37,18.82,11.31,21.00,3.85,0.00,0.17,0.49,0.51,0.40,0.07,0.00
Pomak,18.95,24.66,16.75,13.16,20.92,2.53,0.41,0.84,0.71,0.38,0.35,0.05,0.06

Torbesh are practically identical to Albanians, Aromanians are the closest to FYROM Macedonians. Pomak and Gagauz are the closest to Moesian and Thracian Bulgarians and Greeks.

Are the averages you just posted made by combining the averages that Kaspias made or are they made by combining all the individual results that Kaspias posted before? As far as I know, Kaspias posted many averages without giving the results of the individuals that comprised the average (though I could be mistaken).

[Lioncourt]

Bulgarian_central,22.44,22.94,18.65,11.23,19.38,2.61,0.47,0.13,1.05,0.59,0.40,0.09,0.18
Bulgarian_Moesia,20.07,26.86,16.65,12.83,18.50,2.11,0.54,0.28,1.07,0.20,0.69,0.29,0.23
Bulgarian_northwest,20.43,28.99,17.57,9.97,17.06,2.34,0.82,0.43,0.97,0.67,0.78,0.00,0.00
Bulgarian_southwest,24.57,23.99,17.24,10.73,18.29,2.36,0.20,0.76,1.53,0.33,0.38,0.00,0.21
Bulgarian_Thrace,20.45,21.84,17.08,14.89,20.14,3.06,0.85,0.25,0.24,0.30,0.19,0.24,0.04
Bulgarian,21.59,24.93,17.44,11.93,18.68,2.50,0.57,0.37,0.97,0.42,0.49,0.12,0.13

Based on the number of samples for each regional group, the Bulgarian_average should be (for all components > 1%):

Bulgarian_average: 21.46 23.91 17.50 12.54 19.11 2.66

It's a bit of overrepresentation of Thrace + some doubtfully high Baltic for the Northwest.

[vbnetkhio]

Are the averages you just posted made by combining the averages that Kaspias made or are they made by combining all the individual results that Kaspias posted before? As far as I know, Kaspias posted many averages without giving the results of the individuals that comprised the average (though I could be mistaken).

mostly individual results, and some averages which are probably one result averages. (Stara Zagora, Veliko Tarnovo etc.)

[vbnetkhio]

Based on the number of samples for each regional group, the Bulgarian_average should be (for all components > 1%):

Bulgarian_average: 21.46 23.91 17.50 12.54 19.11 2.66

It's a bit of overrepresentation of Thrace + some doubtfully high Baltic for the Northwest.

i just averaged out the 5 averages. but this doesn't look too different.

[Lioncourt]

i just averaged out the 5 averages. but this doesn't look too different.

It's not too different, only Baltic score shows more than 1% difference. I multiplied each regional by the number of samples for its region, combined them and divided on total samples.

It is also very close to the current Bulgarian average.

21.75           24.06      17.91        11.91       20.12      1.93