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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    (Today is Eid al-Fitr, not Eid al-Adha)
    yes, I took the tittle from the second link from 11.08.2019 [12:32], my mistake, but in Russian source it is called "Uraza-Bayram"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    The most native citizens of Russia are Muslims.

    Russian historians say that "by the fluff of hair" Russian became Orthodox state because it is made of both christians and muslims.

    Native Muslim populace of Russia is close to 20 million.

    That probably partly explains why Russians took slaves from Finland after Great Northern War ... just 300 years ago (=> kidnapping Christians) and sold those blondhaired teenagers to middle east. Ostrobothnia (Swedish ancestors in Finland) were the most wanted/popular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    That probably partly explains why Russians took slaves from Finland after Great Northern War ... just 300 years ago (=> kidnapping Christians) and sold those blondhaired teenagers to middle east. Ostrobothnia (Swedish ancestors in Finland) were the most wanted/popular.
    Muslims in Russia can have light features without any Finnish/Swedish admixture.



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    ^^ do you know their ancestors from the deep past?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Russia should have never colonised North Caucasus though, they have nothing to do with these lands and I know there are plenty of Russians who would like to let these go. These videos aren't very noble (referring to Grozny one). Chechens are native in their lands, never asked for Russians to come to them and they fought million time stronger enemy.

    Wow, Russia defeated 1.5 million strong Chechenya. Incredibly brave feat.
    They probably won't be able to control them forever, North Caucasians in general I mean. Those same Chechens managed to win in the first war with basically nothing but rocket launchers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundqvist View Post
    ^^ do you know their ancestors from the deep past?
    No, but I'm know they lived in endogamous communities with high levels of xenophobia.
    About Tatars - they mixed with other (mainly Central Asian and Iranian) Muslims and not with Christians. Many Tatars have roots from Gilan (Iran) and Bukhara (Uzbekistan).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    Slavs are native to territories from Novgorod to Ryazan. Territories of Volga-Ural region, West Siberia and Caucasus, before Ivan the Terrible, were inhabited by native Muslims and Pagans.
    Isn't the Russian expansion into the Caucasus one of the main reasons it also became predominantly Muslim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ford View Post
    Isn't the Russian expansion into the Caucasus one of the main reasons it also became predominantly Muslim?
    No. Daghestan and Chechen lands gradually became a Muslim from VIIIth to XVIth c. Circassians and part of Ossetia became a Muslim in XVI-XVIIth c. Russian expansion truly started in 1722 when Peter I initiated Caspian expedition. Only Ingush people converted to Islam after Russian annexion (their last High priest converted in 1873).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ford View Post
    Isn't the Russian expansion into the Caucasus one of the main reasons it also became predominantly Muslim?
    Iirc the Circassians were entirely Orthodox and the Chechens mostly Pagan up until the 1700s I believe. Then over time they became more Muslim because of Sufi missionaries came and converted them. Like the Naqshbandi

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tkhaba-Yerdy_Church

    Here's an example of a former Orthodox church in the Muslim Caucasus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    long live the soviet internationalism lol
    Putin's rule is not Soviet. It's anti-Soviet.
    Can you get more stupid?

    Here are Dagestanians waving Soviet flags on their cars met by a Putin's official who tries to stop them by saying it's illegal to wave Soviet flags:


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