Putin congratulates Muslims of Russia on Eid al-Adha Islamic holiday

[Rumata]

Honestly, if the circumstances would be different,
who knows maybe I could come along with all you 4 Russian members (you,
Crimean, Sarmatian, Nop the cop). But history is what it is and it won't
disappear ... if hiding it, denying it, overlooking it.

In the comment section of Sabaton's songs I see many opinions of Swedes who have
a calmer approach to history which doesn't poison their present.
Maybe one day you become a fan of Sabaton and we can come along better

[Axios]

In the comment section of Sabaton's songs I see many opinions of Swedes who have
a calmer approach to history which doesn't poison their present.
Maybe one day you become a fan of Sabaton and we can come along better

Funny, most users here denny and hide history if it makes them "less" european.

[Rumata]

Funny, most users here denny and hide history if it makes them "less" european.

The two important things I've learned on this forum are how to troll and be nationalistic

[Sarmatian]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Russia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom_in_Russia

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr...ssias-slavery/


Present days:
https://www.theglobalist.com/the-new...ery-in-russia/
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/...rt-says-a62317

Is that your sources? Seriously? Wiki and some propaganda outlets. No wonder you're so stupid.

[Finnish Swede]

Is that your sources? Seriously? Wiki and some propaganda outlets. No wonder you're so stupid.

''my friend'' ... don't go to loose your touch (= temper). That suits you badly (making you look less intelligent than you probably are). Plus just like I said bit earlier ... then one ends/moves to personal insults that often shows the arguments have ended.

Nope; those just were easy to put here and they tell enough. Don't worry one will get more than enough links with words: Russia and slaves/slavery. At least here in Western World.

[Div]

Here is what I've dug up on FGM in the Caucasus.

https://www.srji.org/en/about/annual...an-federation/

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-north.../27925915.html

The mufti of Russia's North Caucasus region of Karachayevo-Cherkessia, Ismail Berdiyev, has said the genital mutilation of girls does not contradict Islam and is necessary in order "to limit the unnecessary energy" of future brides.

In an interview with Govorit Moskva radio on August 15, Berdiyev said female genital mutilation (FGM) was "a purely Daghestani ritual."

Berdiyev's statement came days after the Moscow-based Pravovaya Initsiativa (Legal Initiative) human rights center raised the issue of FGM in the mainly Muslim-populated North Caucasus region of Daghestan. Legal Initiative said in its report that in some remote areas in Daghestan, toddler girls go through genital mutilation in very poor sanitary conditions and called on Russian officials to focus on the problem. Legal Initiative quoted several Islamic clerics, some of whom opposed FSM, while others supported it.

The center's report also included opinion of the Daghestani children's ombudswoman, Intizar Mamutayeva, who condemned the ritual as "violence against children." On August 15 Mamutayeva was removed from her position and replaced by former Deputy Justice Minister Rabiyat Zakavova.

Perhaps it is a "purely Daghestani" ritual. But it will continue to spread as Muftis are taught the correct line of Islam. After all the Caucasus was only partially Islamized a few centuries ago. More Muftis imo will see that FGM is what the prophet taught his followers. For example:

Five are the acts quite akin to the Fitra, or five are the acts of Fitra: circumcision, shaving the pubes, cutting the nails, plucking the hair under the armpits and clipping the moustache.

Sahih Muslim 257

He never restricted circumcision to men. Muhammad wasn't even clear about what type of circumcision must be given to men and women.

Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah:

A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (ﷺ) said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband. Abu Dawud said: It has been transmitted by 'Ubaid Allah b. 'Amr from 'Abd al-Malik to the same effect through a different chain. Abu Dawud said: It is not a strong tradition. It has been transmitted in mursal form (missing the link of the Companions) Abu Dawud said: Muhammad b. Hasan is obscure, and this tradition is weak

In fact Aisha circumcized herself according to Bukhari:

the wife of the Prophet (saw) said: "When the two circumcised parts meet, then bath is obligatory. The Messenger of Allah (saw) and I did that, and we bathed." (Sahih)

Sunan Ibn Majah 1,651

Mind you FGM has variations. some is cutting of the hood, or clitoris. some is done to the labia minor. In the most extreme cases, the vagina is sewn until married. Muslim apologists go crazy, because they can have an excuse to say its not practiced with Abi Dawud 5271, but when they get hit by that Ibn Majah 1651. Sometimes they are most dishonest and change the wording, or alter it altogether because of Taqiyyah.

Virtually every school of Sunni Islam believes in this practice. Including the "moderate schools" (no such thing as a moderate in Islam but anyways) like the Shafi, Hanafi, Maliki, etc. Don't believe me? Don't take my word for it, take his:

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/6031...ticism-thereof

[KirillMazur]

I wanted to ignore this thread, but I had to insert my 5 cents.
It is very funny to read when representatives of the "West" are trying to say something about slavery in Russia and freedom at their home.
If, for example, we compare the domestic and foreign policies of Russians and British in the 17-19th century, then Russians are a relative example of philanthropy, and the British are misanthropes in the worst case. These two peoples, being imperials, acted very differently. In particular, it is widely known that when new territories were annexed, the Russians used the word mainly and ensured the uniform development of territories (even sometimes to the detriment of themselves), and the British - coercion by force, genocide and plunder, together with over-exploitation. The Russian Empire is a form of organizing space, and the British Empire is a form of looting space. In other words, the Russians built the "fair empire", and the English (British) built the "filthy empire." Nowadays, under a filthy empire, I primarily understand the United States. The fragments of the British Empire and the EU (Fourth Reich) are also filthy empires, but they are part of the "Great Filthy Empire" (West), with a center in the United States.
The main reasons for the bestial cruelty of Western people lie in the lack of enough space in Europe, overpopulation, scarcity of resources and, most importantly, in religion.

Western man, Western civilization are formed on one ethical substratum, which can be called Judeo-Catholic. It is Old Testament, from which all this bestial seriousness in achieving its goals, combined with illegibility in the means, follows.
It should be understood that Catholics also recognize the New Testament, due to which their cultural substrate is close enough to Russian, so that some Catholics can still be saved.

It is also important that Catholicism, as a whole a successful attempt to bend a branch from the Christianity for the Jews, is itself heterogeneous: having lost its internal strength during the split, it continued to fragment further. And part of the Catholics advanced in the Old Testament more than others, giving rise to Protestantism, in which the Anglo-Saxons took a considerable part. Protestantism is the most consistent antagonist of humanity, and it is he who rules the West now.
For those who have missed the main difference between Orthodox and Catholics: the Orthodox Christian faith believes that there is a universal (divine) moral law and that a person should know it and follow it. The Catholics decided that a person can be the source of moral law, respectively, you can not only know the Law, but also adapt it according to the situation.
It is this that does not allow Westerners to think not about subjugating the world, but about harmonious merging with it, realizing itself only as a particle in it.

Pirates and Slave Traders.
Their entire civilization is built on a robbery.
They hate Russia with fierce hatred because of the impossibility of appropriating all our resources and territories for nothing.

[Rumata]

The mufti of Russia's North Caucasus region of Karachayevo-Cherkessia, Ismail Berdiyev, has said the genital mutilation of girls does not contradict Islam and is necessary in order "to limit the unnecessary energy" of future brides.

Ismail Berdiyev is an ethic Karachay. The Karachays constitute the majority in that part of Caucasus since the imperia deported many Circassians from there.

[FinalFlash]

long live the soviet internationalism lol

Muslims in Russia aren't a recent phenomenon nor was it Soviet internationalism that was responsible for their long-presence in Russia. To drastically reduce the number of Muslims in Russia or Islamic "Rossiyanin" is to secede the Caucasus region from the Russian Federation for starters.

[Sarmatian]

''my friend'' ... don't go to loose your touch (= temper). That suits you badly (making you look less intelligent than you probably are). Plus just like I said bit earlier ... then one ends/moves to personal insults that often shows the arguments have ended.

Nope; those just were easy to put here and they tell enough. Don't worry one will get more than enough links with words: Russia and slaves/slavery. At least here in Western World.

So you throwing in some wild guess of "most likely" type and expecting me to respond with arguments after that? Go find some other idiot to entertain you. You have not presented a single argument so far, only ignorant guesses.