West Asian admixture in mainland Greeks

[gixajo]

400-500 years but it's not from that. Modern Greeks have virtually no West Asian admixture from Turks. The Turk West Asian is Mongoloid.The Greek West Asian is Anatolian and that what this threads about-- the Mycenaean sample has 15% West Asian. It seems that it happened either with the Kura-Araxes expansion west or much much earlier.

Sorry for my answer to Anaximander, you are quite correct in your answers.

Is the same case we have in Iberia, we cannot separate wich % of our NA component is form ancient or modern times, we have it, who cares?

Anaximander cares.

[Eline]

Reconquista worked well, and later expulsion even better. Isn´t it?

Just a question?

How many Gypsies, Northern Africans and Latino's from Latin America does Spain have?

As far as I know today Greece has much less non-Euro's than Spain.


Are you going to deport those Gypsies, Latino's etc. too?

[Jana]

Thanks for sharing. That's interesting and it points toward the Neolithic argument. Unless, it comes to you from somewhere else?

No, neolitics were 0% west asian. It appeared in Europe only in bronze age with IE migrations. In case of Greece also post BA movements from Anatolia.

[Jana]

Neolithic + possibility of further Eastern migrations such as Mycenaeans + possible absorbing of Pontic/Cappadocian Greeks among Mainland Greek community

Nothing strange and Ottomans have no influence on it. The communities such as Vallahades(religion-shifters) already migrated to Turkey, and even they don't have such an Ottoman influence.

Neolithic farmers were west med + east med (more west med), no west asian. I don't know why do people falsely keep repeating that.

[Eline]

No, neolitics were 0% west asian. It appeared in Europe only in bronze age with IE migrations. In case of Greece also post BA movements from Anatolia.

There are theories (Armenian model of Ivanov) that Mycenaeans split from Graeco-Aryan group in Anatolia (from Kura-Araxes) before they arrived in the mainland Greece.

[gixajo]

Just a question?

How many Gypsies, Northern Africans and Latino's from Latin America does Spain have?

As far as I know today Greece has much less non-Euro's than Spain.


Are you going to deport those Gypsies, Latino's etc. too?

The thread is about West Asian component in Greeks.

No, nobody will deport Gypsies or Latinos,.

As far as I know today Greece has much less non-Euro's than Spain.

In native population ?

Don´t know, if you are a Greek who lives in Belgium, we can compare us, I don´t know who has more non-euro components.

Will we start a triggering chain because of Anaximander monomania?

I didn´t come here to troll.

[Anaximander]

Just a question?

How many Gypsies, Northern Africans and Latino's from Latin America does Spain have?

As far as I know today Greece has much less non-Euro's than Spain?

''As far as u know''

[Epirus DNA]

GedMatch Kit#: Z445292
Minoan_Lasithi I0073
mtDNA: H
Y-DNA: J2a1

Eurogenes K15
North_Sea -
Atlantic 12.40 Pct
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 36.28 Pct
West_Asian 10.28 Pct
East_Med 39.44 Pct
Red_Sea 1.59 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -



GedMatch Kit#: Z667807
Mycenaean I9041
mtDNA: X2
Y-DNA: J2a1

Eurogenes K15
North_Sea 6.11 Pct
Atlantic 18.49 Pct
Baltic 0.67 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 26.43 Pct
West_Asian 11.26 Pct
East_Med 31.50 Pct
Red_Sea 4.10 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.10 Pct
Siberian 0.91 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.45 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

[Chris596]

Thanks for sharing. That's interesting and it points toward the Neolithic argument. Unless, it comes to you from somewhere else?

Well, according to some members, maybe, just maybe I had Ottoman ancestors as well (given the history of my country). I get generally higher West and East Asian on GEDmatch than many Hungarian members here. But maybe it's because I'm half Szekely, another Szekely member here gets high East Asian as well.

[Eline]

In native population ?

Don´t know, if you are a Greek who lives in Belgium, we can compare us, I don´t know who has more non-euro components.

No, I mean as foreigners of non-Euro origin.

I think that Spain has more foreigners of non-Euro ancestry and those foreigners will become Spanish sooner or later. And Spain will absorb their DNA.

It is a natural process happened and is happening to all races in the world.

Spanish people are not similar to Spanish people of 300 years ago. And Spanish people of 300 years ago were not similar to Spanish people of 600 years ago. Same with all other race and also with my own ethnic group from Belgium.