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    Guy sat on his face for an ABSURD amount of time considering he was in hand cuffs. Poor police manning for sure, wtf was he thinking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Stealing, in addition to his previous long criminal record already shows without a doubt what this man's character was. No one should be angry or sad at his death. Most Modern people are just way too soft when it comes to dealing with criminals, and too many people have the wrong idea that every human life is precious.
    Aren't you part Jew ? For some people your life is worth
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    Just saying, don't go there, the guy was not resisting and the police was out of line, it was not even proved he commited a crime intentionally (he could have got a fake bill from someone else), anyway it's a very minor crime.

    For me the most absurd are the serious crimes being made by those "manifesting"...and the police now does nothing ? Don't put them in jail or choke them to death ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex View Post
    Aren't you part Jew ? For some people your life is worth
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    And I can understand why some people may think that so it doesn't bother me. But of course i'm not advocating for civilians to take the law into their own hands.

    Just saying, don't go there, the guy was not resisting and the police was out of line, it was not even proved he commited a crime intentionally (he could have got a fake bill from someone else), anyway it's a very minor crime.
    His previous criminal record is enough evidence that he was acting maliciously. He was a bad person without a doubt and I don't see why any further money should have been wasted on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Stealing, in addition to his previous long criminal record already shows without a doubt what this man's character was. No one should be angry or sad at his death. Most Modern people are just way too soft when it comes to dealing with criminals, and too many people have the wrong idea that every human life is precious.
    I don't think petty theft justifies having someone handcuffed face down on the asphalt and then choking them for nine minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiăo de Góis View Post
    I don't think petty theft justifies having someone handcuffed face down on the asphalt and then choking them for nine minutes.
    And with that sort of puritan cowboy-vigilante mentality they wonder why there are riots on the streets. Everything is too extreme over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex View Post
    And with that sort of puritan cowboy-vigilante mentality they wonder why there are riots on the streets. Everything is too extreme over there.
    Nobody here wonders why there are riots on the streets. It's all very predictable. Constant media incitement, years of indoctrination, and black nature.

    US cops are (relatively) heavy-handed precisely because of the behaviour of blacks and previous experience around them, it's not the other way round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Nobody here wonders why there are riots on the streets. It's all very predictable. Constant media incitement, years of indoctrination, and black nature.

    US cops are (relatively) heavy-handed precisely because of the behaviour of blacks and previous experience around them, it's not the other way round.
    Btw, they're rioting in London and Paris too. I guess that's also because the police are 'too extreme' in those places.

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    I think coronovirus played a part on this too, people needed to explode. And it was right in the wake of Ahmaud Arbery. A lot of publicity on that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiăo de Góis View Post
    I don't think petty theft justifies having someone handcuffed face down on the asphalt and then choking them for nine minutes.
    Smeagol might be trying to justify it but I'm not. I'm just saying mathematically there is no case to be made that this is a significant event that occurred in the world if it were not for innumerate journalists and innumerate rioters blowing it out of proportion. Tragedies happen all the time in human societies. For instance, there was a woman that skinned to death by a male in a domestic violence assault but I did not see people rioting over that. Here is your math assignment : prove that police brutality is a more significant issue than other things such as domestic violence against women and drunk driving etc... yes, these are usually not sensationalized but that does not logically mean they are not more important.


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    if we turn from anecdotes to data, this narrative [of the media--Jamesbond007] very quickly falls apart. Numerous organizations provide estimates of the rates at which black people are killed by police. Generally, these estimates are not too far off from each-other. For instance, The CDC says that around 27% of people killed by police are black. A sociologist used data from Killedbypolice.net to argue that number should be 30%. The FBI puts it at 32%.

    By contrast, Black Americans account for 13% of the total population, 38% violent criminals, and 53% of murders. Black people also account for 40% of those who murder police officers, and so probably instigate around 40% of potentially lethal confrontations with the police (FBI, 2014).

    Thus, black people are underrepresented among those killed by police relative to their representation among those who commit violent crimes, who commit murder, and who kill police officers.


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