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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    I wonder ....

    1.) Today what % of Americans (incl. all ethnics living in USA) have criminal records (some marks)?

    2.) Today what % of Americans (incl. all ethnics) have similar (or even worse) criminal records as his?
    Not from 2020 but 2010.

    New research led by a University of Georgia sociologist on the growth in the scope and scale of felony convictions finds that, as of 2010, 3 percent of the total U.S. population and 15 percent of the African-American male population have served time in prison. People with felony convictions more broadly account for 8 percent of the overall population and 33 percent of the African-American male population.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0928121641.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axios View Post
    Not from 2020 but 2010.

    New research led by a University of Georgia sociologist on the growth in the scope and scale of felony convictions finds that, as of 2010, 3 percent of the total U.S. population and 15 percent of the African-American male population have served time in prison. People with felony convictions more broadly account for 8 percent of the overall population and 33 percent of the African-American male population.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0928121641.htm

    High numbers (%) all together ... as I was afraid. Incl. that soup free gun laws .... in reality lots of guns etc. in the hands of people. Standard procedures & normal behaviors of US polices can not be compared to some European countries ... for example against Finland.

    Violent society <=> hard / violent polices.

    What is egg and what is chicken?
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEeMHFik9Xo


    the above is a YouTube video entitled " Video Appears to Show George Floyd in Struggle in Police Vehicle "; the channel is " Today " (US Today Show)

    From the beginning - 0:06, according to the narrator: "Now security video of what happened moments earlier appears to show a struggle in the back seat of a police vehicle."

    If Floyd was in fact resisting arrest, it would give an officer a legitimate reason to restrain him.

    0:17-0:27: with what he said here, the Minneapolis Police Chief threw his own officers under the bus. All of those who are/will be charged are legally entitled to a fair trial, and that can only happen when the members of a jury pool are unbiased. Roiling the waters before the trial even starts doesn't help matters. The verdict to come will speak for itself, and there is no need to add it.

    For those who are certain about what actually happened to Floyd, please consider this: if the people in a community have become biased without any possibility of change, then defense counsel will request a change of venue, and that could delay the trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    High numbers (%) all together ... as I was afraid. Incl. that soup free gun laws .... in reality lots of guns etc. in the hands of people. Standard procedures & normal behaviors of US polices can not be compared to some European countries ... for example against Finland.

    Violent society <=> hard / violent polices.

    What is egg and what is chicken?
    Europeans do not understand the situation in the US.

    Throughout Europe, at least since the 1990s, the police have been highly militarized, something that could never happen in the US, as we are always on guard against militarism (at least domestically).

    But you are right about crime: Europeans have no idea just how bad the crime situation is here, and the fact that --very rarely--a cop may be interpreted as overusing force, is nothing compared to the general level of crime that terrorizes everyone (even if you're not a victim yourself, you are a victim of being forced to live in specific, high-rent, communities for some amount of security, thus leading to what liberals refer to as segregation and racism).
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmaohma78 View Post
    "George Floyd moved to Minneapolis in 2014 for a fresh start after being released from prison in Houston, Texas following an arrest for aggravated robbery
    Floyd had turned his life around but died on Monday after a white officer knelt on his neck while arresting him for allegedly paying with a fake $20 bill
    None of the officers could have been aware of Floyd's more than a decade-old criminal history at the time of the arrest
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    lol, they don't really know how the US police works. From the moment he was identified, police had access to all of his history, including traffic fines and any misdemeanor. Armed home robbery is one of the worst crimes when judging the criminal past of a person and his level of danger. For those who worry they could have been killed for having a fake $20 bill no worries, if you have no prior crimes and you don't resist arrest you will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaland View Post


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEeMHFik9Xo


    the above is a YouTube video entitled " Video Appears to Show George Floyd in Struggle in Police Vehicle "; the channel is " Today " (US Today Show)

    From the beginning - 0:06, according to the narrator: "Now security video of what happened moments earlier appears to show a struggle in the back seat of a police vehicle."

    If Floyd was in fact resisting arrest, it would give an officer a legitimate reason to restrain him.

    0:17-0:27: with what he said here, the Minneapolis Police Chief threw his own officers under the bus. All of those who are/will be charged are legally entitled to a fair trial, and that can only happen when the members of a jury pool are unbiased. Roiling the waters before the trial even starts doesn't help matters. The verdict to come will speak for itself, and there is no need to add it.

    For those who are certain about what actually happened to Floyd, please consider this: if the people in a community have become biased without any possibility of change, then defense counsel will request a change of venue, and that could delay the trial.
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    Maybe if people like this stayed in school they would know via their leftist professors that whites, especially white cops are evil, violent racists and are to be avoided at all costs until the system is overthrown and white oppressors get the Haiti treatment.

    Why is the guy at 1:12 not just urging parents to raise their kids properly and to be able to avoid altercations with the police in the first place instead of the dumb "what if it was your kid?" if he really cares so much? Teaching people how to be better parents seems a lot easier to me than overthrowing a whole supposedly racist and brutal government justice system. and yeah, if that report is accurate that the neck or arm restraint on the neck has been used 200 in Minneapolis(again, legal in most of the country except a few big metropolitan areas) since 2015, with 44 cases of people going unconcious without any charges laid, there should be absolutely no grounds for a murder charge, again manslaughter, criminal negligence leading to death, deadly assault/battery are more on par, but Chauvin is probably going to get fucked because of the circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    and yeah, if that report is accurate that the neck or arm restraint on the neck has been used 200 in Minneapolis since 2015, with 44 cases of people going unconcious without any charges laid, there should be absolutely no grounds for a murder charge, again manslaughter, criminal negligence leading to death, deadly assault/battery are more on par, but Chauvin is probably going to get fucked because of the circumstances.
    This is what worries me the most, cops will be afraid to physically restrain criminals and they will be bolder in trying to get away or even worse killing cops.

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