Carleton Coon quotes on 'Hallstatt Nordics'. Mistaken Altantids?

[Septentrion]

I know that to someone extremely obstinate like you this might be hard to accept but THIS MAN IS CLEARLY BROWN-HAIRED.
Lighting may change the true colour to a degree but not that much.
Why don't we see some other examples by Coon to illustrate it (quotes are all from link below - a troe plate):
http://www.friendsofsabbath.org/Furt...roeplate27.htm
''A Finn of predominantly Corded type; note the ash-blond hair and grayish eyes, the great head length, and extremely low cephalic index. In head and face proportions a resemblance is seen to the Corded-like Irano-Afghan sub-type, a resemblance which is enhanced if pigmentation differences are ignored Both metrically and morphologically this individual is seen to be fully Mediterranean; there is no evidence of Upper Palaeolithic admixture.''

Even on these photos it's obvious the man is blond (apparently a little blonder under the sun).
''A Swede from Sonderhamn who represents the same type, and who is very similar in most dimensions. The population of most of Sweden is predominantly Nordic; typical Upper Palaeolithic survivors are numerous only along the southwestern coast.''

This man is also apparently blond.
''A Nordic Dane of Jutish parentage who also shows Corded predominance. His face is of extreme length, a trait common among ancient Corded crania. This individual is the son of the classic Borreby man shown on Plate 5, Fig. 1; this is graphic evidence of the fact that ancient racial types may be repeated in toto in individuals of mixed racial ancestry. Only through the agency of such segregation is it possible to present this collection of basic European racial photographs.''

A pretty light-haired individual, too.
And now we come to the last one:
''New Englander of Colonial British descent. This tall, slenderly built, ash-blond-haired Nordic is an extreme example of the Corded type which entered Britain first during the Bronze Age in conjunction with brachycephals, and later during the Iron Age as an element in the Nordic invading groups. Its presence in New England in 1938 can only be regarded as a complete reemergence.''

WTF? Are you serious? Regardless if you are comparing this man and the first one (described also as ash blond) at a dull light or outside, under the sun, there is a several nuances gap in their hair colour. In fact all the other 3 men are significantly lighter-haired than the New Englander.
His colour in reality wouldn't be lighter than what is universally treated as medium brown. His hair is even darker than mine and, trust me, most people don't perceive me as blond (nor do I view myself as such), what left for ash blond...
And stop trying desperately to act like an alpha (OK? ultimative tone and such bullshit). You are a parody in many aspects.

Carleton Coon did not confuse ash blond hair with medium brown. Are you stupid or what? The American is described as a blond person.

[Immanenz]

Carleton Coon did not confuse ash blond hair with medium brown. Are you stupid or what? The American is described as a blond person.

No, he only described a Kabyle North African as "exotic Nordic"- he would do the same with Zinedin Zidane, i m pretty convinced by this.

The English dude looks like Joachim Watzke but his hair looks darker than of Watzke.

[Lucas]

This is why ''Atlantid'' is always a safer term when skull and/or facial traits show Mediterranean admixture and the whole constitution stands between Nordic and Mediterranean types. Atlantids are in fact very rare in areas like The Netherlands, Norway or Sweden. Most of the darker types in Scandinavia are either still Nordic or Paleo Atlantid.
And much of Coon's theories are debunked (he did well mainly regarding Saxon and Celtic types and when giving metrics). When it comes to pigmentation, he wasn't amongst the greatest.
Look what he said about this New Englander:
''New Englander of Colonial British descent. This tall, slenderly built, ash-blond-haired Nordic is an extreme example of the Corded type which entered Britain first during the Bronze Age in conjunction with brachycephals, and later during the Iron Age as an element in the Nordic invading groups. Its presence in New England in 1938 can only be regarded as a complete reëmergence.''

I agree that the man is feature-wise (and apparently metrically, too) very Corded Nordic but this hair isn't even blond to begin with, what left for ash blond Yes, I know lighting can sometimes change perceptions but this isn't obviously the case. The lightest this hair colour could be in reality under the sun is medium brown.

Here is my scan from original Troe in big format.
His hair appears lighter a bit here (open image in full resolution).

[The Blade]

Here is my scan from original Troe in big format.
His hair appears lighter a bit here (open image in full resolution).

I did but that's still brown hair.

[The Blade]

Carleton Coon did not confuse ash blond hair with medium brown. Are you stupid or what? The American is described as a blond person.

You are the only stupid commenting in this thread.

[kiko]

You are a Nordic, just with Brown hair, you don't look Mediterranean influenced, you look like a Englishman.

[Septentrion]

You are the only stupid commenting in this thread.

Please use your brain!!!!! It was not put there for nothing!!!!! Use it!

[Norb]

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[Creoda]

Distance to: CZE_IA_Hallstatt
0.02092513 French_Nord
0.02108294 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02150384 French_Alsace
0.02286985 Belgian
0.02343261 Swiss_German
0.02423916 German
0.02547487 French_Paris
0.02618110 Austrian
0.02682101 French_Occitanie
0.02864765 French_Brittany

Can we finally retire this meaningless Atlantid term?

From now on, Atlantid = Hallstatt in my vocab. Be the change you wish to see.