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    Default Is Britain "too light" for its location?

    OK, I agree that the British Isles are located in Northern Europe.
    But they are a part of Western Europe as well.

    Let's take a look at the nations that are bordering (or relatively close to) the UK: France (!), Belgium, The Netherlands, Ireland.

    Ireland and the Netherlands are pretty light, yes, but France and Belgium not particularly.

    I am actually pretty surprised that Brits are so light despite their Western location. They share the same geographical corner as France and Spain and yet they look closer to Scandinavians.
    In my point of view...

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    Second thread about british You open in th last five minutes.

    Lol at they live in the same geographical corner than Spanish.

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    UK and Ireland are considerably more northern than Belgium, France and Spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narration View Post

    UK and Ireland are considerably more northern than Belgium, France and Spain.
    Yes, going down from Northern UK to France is as long as about going down from Ukraine (or even Belarus) to Greece.

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    So now longitude matters?))))))))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    So now longitude matters?))))))))
    In a way, yes.

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    source populations for british/irish:

    pre-germanic celtic peoples
    angles, saxons, jutes, frisians
    vikings (especially from the old Danelaw, scottish Islands and East coast of Ireland)
    Normans

    don't think the colouring of brits/irish is surprising given their origins tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungSkywalker View Post
    OK, I agree that the British Isles are located in Northern Europe.
    But they are a part of Western Europe as well.

    Let's take a look at the nations that are bordering (or relatively close to) the UK: France (!), Belgium, The Netherlands, Ireland.

    Ireland and the Netherlands are pretty light, yes, but France and Belgium not particularly.

    I am actually pretty surprised that Brits are so light despite their Western location. They share the same geographical corner as France and Spain and yet they look closer to Scandinavians.
    In my point of view...
    Great Britain is in North - West Europe, dude, lays more north than most of Western Europe. France, Luxembourg, Belgium lays more south in terms of latitude. Parts of Britain are as northern as parts of southern Scandinavia. Adaptation to such climates favors light pigmentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungSkywalker View Post
    OK, I agree that the British Isles are located in Northern Europe.
    But they are a part of Western Europe as well.

    Let's take a look at the nations that are bordering (or relatively close to) the UK: France (!), Belgium, The Netherlands, Ireland.

    Ireland and the Netherlands are pretty light, yes, but France and Belgium not particularly.

    I am actually pretty surprised that Brits are so light despite their Western location. They share the same geographical corner as France and Spain and yet they look closer to Scandinavians.
    In my point of view...
    Adaptation to the northern Atlantic climate ( gloomy) gave rise to a higher frequency for pale or very fair skin, to the point of not being able to tan, with high freckling, and red hair. All these characteristics, whether combined or separated are most common in Great Britain and the neighboring Ireland. This makes them the palest - complected people on earth as a whole. Scandinavians have as a whole the highest frequency for blondness, but a still much more able to darken or tan their complexions than the British. In that aspect, you could say they are «too light», but this goes in line with their geographical location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungSkywalker View Post
    OK, I agree that the British Isles are located in Northern Europe.
    But they are a part of Western Europe as well.

    Let's take a look at the nations that are bordering (or relatively close to) the UK: France (!), Belgium, The Netherlands, Ireland.

    Ireland and the Netherlands are pretty light, yes, but France and Belgium not particularly.

    I am actually pretty surprised that Brits are so light despite their Western location. They share the same geographical corner as France and Spain and yet they look closer to Scandinavians.
    In my point of view...
    They are not pale because of their latitude, but because of their origins. The biggest ancestry in Britain is Beaker related, who came from the colder steppe and absorbed Baltic Hunter Gatherers in NE Europe and WHG rich TRB/GB farmers, who were lighter than Atlantic farmers. All other source ancestry in the isles is fellow North Sea natives who also came from CWC/Battle Axe/Bell Beaker stock (Angles, Saxons, Frisi, Danes, Norse, Normans).

    Its like saying why White Aussies have different pigmentation from Native Aussies despite interacting with each other in the same climates. You need to look at the origins

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