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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    If you have Mizrahi Jews G25 samples I can add them.
    Yemenite_Jew,0.051383,0.1447854,-0.0632486,-0.114066,-0.0118263,-0.0466941,-0.0134963,-0.0088677,0.0489689,-0.006274,0.0113209,-0.0266121,0.0539851,0.0032439,0.0035287,0.0171607,-0.0245497,0.003475,0.0064106,0.0249583,0.012888,0. 0159867,-0.0070954,0.0046479,-0.0068941
    Iraqi_Jew,0.0891613,0.1404817,-0.0664988,-0.0757435,-0.023081,-0.020452,-0.0008617,-0.0081533,-0.0110443,-0.0013973,0.0038703,-0.0045458,0.0114718,0.0068125,-0.0076457,0.0080882,-0.004933,-0.0005913,0.0031425,-0.0114012,0.000395,-0.0037302,-0.0033483,-0.0038358,0.001996
    Iranian_Jew,0.092829,0.1321318,-0.0645294,-0.0642411,-0.0321084,-0.0145023,0.0006006,-0.0045128,-0.012067,-0.0026324,0.0063512,-0.002681,0.0113312,-4.6e-05,-0.0018849,0.0097084,-0.0058819,0.0028296,0.005838,-0.0116306,-4.17e-05,-0.0009341,-0.0038618,-0.0004687,0.0005054
    Syrian_Jew,0.0870745,0.142682,-0.0358265,-0.066538,-0.005847,-0.0220325,-0.0043475,-0.002423,0.0006135,0.008383,0.0064145,0.0004495,0. 0055,-0.0002065,-0.0001355,0.0007955,-0.003977,-0.002534,-0.0037705,-0.004815,0.001248,-0.003277,0.0030195,-0.001807,0.002335

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    Yemenite_Jew,0.051383,0.1447854,-0.0632486,-0.114066,-0.0118263,-0.0466941,-0.0134963,-0.0088677,0.0489689,-0.006274,0.0113209,-0.0266121,0.0539851,0.0032439,0.0035287,0.0171607,-0.0245497,0.003475,0.0064106,0.0249583,0.012888,0. 0159867,-0.0070954,0.0046479,-0.0068941
    Iraqi_Jew,0.0891613,0.1404817,-0.0664988,-0.0757435,-0.023081,-0.020452,-0.0008617,-0.0081533,-0.0110443,-0.0013973,0.0038703,-0.0045458,0.0114718,0.0068125,-0.0076457,0.0080882,-0.004933,-0.0005913,0.0031425,-0.0114012,0.000395,-0.0037302,-0.0033483,-0.0038358,0.001996
    Iranian_Jew,0.092829,0.1321318,-0.0645294,-0.0642411,-0.0321084,-0.0145023,0.0006006,-0.0045128,-0.012067,-0.0026324,0.0063512,-0.002681,0.0113312,-4.6e-05,-0.0018849,0.0097084,-0.0058819,0.0028296,0.005838,-0.0116306,-4.17e-05,-0.0009341,-0.0038618,-0.0004687,0.0005054
    Syrian_Jew,0.0870745,0.142682,-0.0358265,-0.066538,-0.005847,-0.0220325,-0.0043475,-0.002423,0.0006135,0.008383,0.0064145,0.0004495,0. 0055,-0.0002065,-0.0001355,0.0007955,-0.003977,-0.002534,-0.0037705,-0.004815,0.001248,-0.003277,0.0030195,-0.001807,0.002335


    Iraqi Jews and Irani Jews plot much closer than Ashkenazi Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post


    Iraqi Jews and Irani Jews plot much closer than Ashkenazi Jews.
    wow I wasn't expecting yemenite jews to be that far even italians are closer to ancient canaanites and yes it seems iraqi/iranian jews are even closer to them than the average palestinian interesting.

    What about samaritan ? :

    Samaritan,0.0853674,0.1486734,-0.0573978,-0.0925072,-0.0096018,-0.0350286,-0.002209,-0.0081688,0.016321,0.008237,0.0091586,-0.0099212,0.0204854,0.0118632,-0.0055372,0.0021214,-0.011239,0.0010134,0.0021116,-0.003652,-0.0005242,0.003116,0.000567,-0.0029402,0.0046462

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    wow I wasn't expecting yemenite jews to be that far even italians are closer to ancient canaanites and yes it seems iraqi/iranian jews are even closer to them than the average palestinian interesting.

    What about samaritan ? :

    Samaritan,0.0853674,0.1486734,-0.0573978,-0.0925072,-0.0096018,-0.0350286,-0.002209,-0.0081688,0.016321,0.008237,0.0091586,-0.0099212,0.0204854,0.0118632,-0.0055372,0.0021214,-0.011239,0.0010134,0.0021116,-0.003652,-0.0005242,0.003116,0.000567,-0.0029402,0.0046462
    The plus sign is the Samaritan:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    The plus sign is the Samaritan:


    basically the same people as ancient canaanites.

    Even the way they speak hebrew sounds way more authentic and semitic : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t89pl6bFT6s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    basically the same people as ancient canaanites.

    Even the way they speak hebrew sounds way more authentic and semitic : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t89pl6bFT6s
    It looks like they are the closest of all modern populations to the ancient levant/canaanites altogether with some Lebanese and Palestinian outliers. After that we have the Lebanese, Iraqi/Irani Jews, after that we have Palestinians and then we have the Ashkenazi Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmm0 View Post
    can you add mine ?
    im a Mountain Jew(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Jews) we are considered as Mizrahi Jews

    my g25 coordinates- mountain jew north caucasus

    sol_scaled,0.08992,0.128972,-0.056945,-0.057171,-0.036314,-0.013945,-0.00517,-0.011769,-0.017794,0.000729,0.002923,-0.000899,0.011596,-0.003853,-0.002714,0.012729,-0.001304,0.005194,0.005656,-0.006628,-0.007237,0.004451,-0.007272,0.005543,0.007544
    sol,0.0079,0.0127,-0.0151,-0.0177,-0.0118,-0.005,-0.0022,-0.0051,-0.0087,0.0004,0.0018,-0.0006,0.0078,-0.0028,-0.002,0.0096,-0.001,0.0041,0.0045,-0.0053,-0.0058,0.0036,-0.0059,0.0046,0.0063
    Interesting that you are close to Turkish.

    Distance to: sol
    0.09978790 Turkish_South
    0.10331974 Turkish_Southwest
    0.10389774 Turkmen
    0.10494413 Turkish_Aydin
    0.10636068 Turkish_Balikesir
    0.10774027 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    0.10915050 Tajik
    0.10921625 Turkish_Northwest
    0.11002632 Turkish_North
    0.11834865 Roma_Granada
    0.12115684 Turkish_Central
    0.12296207 Roma_Bilbao
    0.12388685 Roma_Balkans
    0.12611251 Roma_Porto
    0.12644882 Turkish_Adana
    0.12668774 Azeri
    0.12751603 Iranian_Bandari
    0.12865033 Iranian_Seyyed
    0.12909576 Tajik_Shugnan
    0.12910448 Parsi_Pakistan
    0.12924060 Parsi_India
    0.13013647 Roma_Madrid
    0.13098959 Turkish_Istanbul
    0.13144501 Tajik_Ishkashim
    0.13231845 Tatar_Lipka


    Vahaduo



    Target: sol
    Distance: 0.3673% / 0.00367296
    38.6 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
    7.0 Balochi
    6.8 French_Paris
    5.6 Slovakian
    5.0 Mlabri
    4.8 Igbo
    4.4 Albanian
    3.6 Altaian
    3.4 Yemenite_Al_Jawf
    2.8 Mari
    2.4 Luhya_Kenya
    2.2 Shor_Mountain
    2.0 Han_Shanghai
    1.6 Mongolian
    1.2 Tibetan_Chamdo
    1.0 Cameroon_Bangwa
    1.0 Evenk
    1.0 Pima
    0.8 Greenlander_East
    0.8 Laka
    0.8 Rai
    0.8 Sakha
    0.6 Kosipe
    0.6 Mbuti
    0.4 Esan_Nigeria
    0.2 Bajo
    0.2 Indonesian_Bali
    0.2 Ju_hoan_North
    0.2 Khomani_San



    Target: sol
    Distance: 2.1736% / 0.02173615 | ADC: 0.25x
    40.4 Turkmen
    23.0 Turkish_South
    10.4 Egyptian
    10.0 Berber_Algeria
    8.6 Maori
    2.6 Roma_Bilbao
    2.2 Bantu_S.E.
    2.2 Iranian_Bandari
    0.4 Kongo
    0.2 Mbuti

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    Interesting that you are close to Turkish.

    Distance to: sol
    0.09978790 Turkish_South
    0.10331974 Turkish_Southwest
    0.10389774 Turkmen
    0.10494413 Turkish_Aydin
    0.10636068 Turkish_Balikesir
    0.10774027 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    0.10915050 Tajik
    0.10921625 Turkish_Northwest
    0.11002632 Turkish_North
    0.11834865 Roma_Granada
    0.12115684 Turkish_Central
    0.12296207 Roma_Bilbao
    0.12388685 Roma_Balkans
    0.12611251 Roma_Porto
    0.12644882 Turkish_Adana
    0.12668774 Azeri
    0.12751603 Iranian_Bandari
    0.12865033 Iranian_Seyyed
    0.12909576 Tajik_Shugnan
    0.12910448 Parsi_Pakistan
    0.12924060 Parsi_India
    0.13013647 Roma_Madrid
    0.13098959 Turkish_Istanbul
    0.13144501 Tajik_Ishkashim
    0.13231845 Tatar_Lipka


    Vahaduo



    Target: sol
    Distance: 0.3673% / 0.00367296
    38.6 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
    7.0 Balochi
    6.8 French_Paris
    5.6 Slovakian
    5.0 Mlabri
    4.8 Igbo
    4.4 Albanian
    3.6 Altaian
    3.4 Yemenite_Al_Jawf
    2.8 Mari
    2.4 Luhya_Kenya
    2.2 Shor_Mountain
    2.0 Han_Shanghai
    1.6 Mongolian
    1.2 Tibetan_Chamdo
    1.0 Cameroon_Bangwa
    1.0 Evenk
    1.0 Pima
    0.8 Greenlander_East
    0.8 Laka
    0.8 Rai
    0.8 Sakha
    0.6 Kosipe
    0.6 Mbuti
    0.4 Esan_Nigeria
    0.2 Bajo
    0.2 Indonesian_Bali
    0.2 Ju_hoan_North
    0.2 Khomani_San



    Target: sol
    Distance: 2.1736% / 0.02173615 | ADC: 0.25x
    40.4 Turkmen
    23.0 Turkish_South
    10.4 Egyptian
    10.0 Berber_Algeria
    8.6 Maori
    2.6 Roma_Bilbao
    2.2 Bantu_S.E.
    2.2 Iranian_Bandari
    0.4 Kongo
    0.2 Mbuti
    Think you may have mixed up scaled and unscaled:
    Distance to: sol_scaled
    0.00000000 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
    0.02330229 Iranian_Jew
    0.02580769 Assyrian
    0.02701688 Georgian_Jew
    0.03679200 Armenian
    0.03711213 Iraqi_Jew
    0.04024972 Lebanese_Druze
    0.04075788 Druze
    0.04195846 Ezid
    0.04204446 Lebanese_Muslim
    0.04267745 Kurdish
    0.04273707 Syrian
    0.04639884 Iranian_Lor
    0.05026492 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    0.05047616 Karaite_Egypt
    0.05227234 Turkish_Kayseri
    0.05233584 Lebanese_Christian
    0.05256170 Azeri_Turkey
    0.05345152 Turkish_Trabzon
    0.05356890 Azeri
    0.05385358 Syrian_Jew
    0.05401866 Greek_Central_Anatolia
    0.05493396 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
    0.05509012 Iranian_Zoroastrian
    0.05519211 Turkish_Adana
    Other Y-DNA:
    Maternal 6X Great Grandfather J1-ZS10441
    Maternal Y-DNA J1-L816

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    Here are Ancient South Levant K12b results (I will check some other calcs later today too):

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ulator-results


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    The plus sign is the Samaritan:


    You should separate the Philistine cluster from the ancient Levant one, it extends it way too much given it is effectively an outlier.

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