Tuscans have north african admixture

[gixajo]

"suspect" "nonsense" maybe if you don't know history but the study clearly shows that this NA influx happened during the fall of the roman empire at the same time when vandals invaded and devastated coastal north africa which forced many north africans to flee to italy. I don't see what's weird here

Ok well, if this NA is not from muslims, it´s ok.

[Nassbean]

I also doubt that they have North African admixture, do we have Tuscan G25 samples so we can compare?

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Italian_Tuscany:NA20502,0.120652,0.149283,0.010559,-0.020349,0.030159,-0.007251,-0.001645,0.000692,0.007567,0.018041,-0.000974,0.006744,-0.015312,-0.004266,-0.000136,-0.005701,0.007562,0.001267,0.010684,-0.003126,0.00262,0.000989,0.000739,0.001928,-0.00467
Italian_Tuscany:NA20504,0.118376,0.140143,0.013199,-0.019057,0.027082,-0.009482,0.000705,0.002538,0.007567,0.02442,-0.000162,0.006294,-0.010852,-0.006744,-0.002036,0.014187,0.014733,0.001394,-0.00264,0.009254,0.000374,0.002226,-0.007888,0.001325,0.002155
Italian_Tuscany:NA20505,0.1161,0.156392,0.01961,-0.021318,0.028621,-0.009482,0.001645,0.003231,0.003068,0.027335,0,0.003897,-0.016204,-0.006881,-0.007872,-0.005967,0.011604,0.00114,0.003142,0.002501,-0.002745,0,-0.000493,-0.003735,-0.003712
Italian_Tuscany:NA20506,0.122929,0.141159,0.012068,-0.027132,0.01508,-0.009482,0.004465,-0.003461,0.004704,0.023326,0.000974,0.009292,-0.010258,-0.004954,-0.003393,0.005834,0.004172,0.003547,0.008925,-0.002626,-0.000499,0.000989,0.000616,0.018075,-0.007185
Italian_Tuscany:NA20508,0.117238,0.148267,0.010182,-0.020349,0.02185,-0.008088,-0.00423,0.000692,0.00634,0.020228,0.001137,0.001649,-0.01115,-0.005918,0.0038,0.001458,-0.001043,-0.001647,0.002011,-0.006253,0.000374,0.001607,-0.001849,0.005784,-0.003592
Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany27,0.120652,0.155376,0.01697,-0.024871,0.025851,-0.004741,0.002585,0.000923,0.008181,0.027153,-0.007145,0.008842,-0.013677,-0.003853,-0.003529,-0.005569,0.012386,-0.003167,-0.001257,-0.003252,-0.00287,0.004204,0.001725,0.005784,0.004071
Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany38,0.114961,0.151314,0.010559,-0.020995,0.026159,-0.008925,0.003525,0.003,0.012271,0.024055,0.002436,0.004496,-0.014271,0.002615,0.00095,-0.006762,-0.01356,-0.001267,0.006034,-0.006128,0.000873,0.001607,0.001972,0.00012,0.00491
Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany54,0.119514,0.15436,0.017348,-0.022287,0.024928,-0.005857,0.000705,-0.009692,0.003681,0.018953,-0.006983,0.002248,-0.013974,-0.002202,-0.002986,0.001724,0.004303,0.001394,0.003142,-0.003502,0.000873,0.00371,-0.000863,-0.008676,-0.002036
Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany74,0.113823,0.146236,0.014331,-0.019703,0.022466,-0.006972,0.00517,0.000462,0.004704,0.024237,-0.001461,0.007643,-0.008622,0.005643,-0.002036,-0.009944,-0.01343,-0.00038,0.004902,-0.000625,-0.001747,0.008161,-0.001972,-0.001084,0.001078
Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany93,0.124067,0.140143,0.011314,-0.019057,0.023081,-0.016733,-0.00094,-0.002077,0.010022,0.024237,0.007145,0.004496,-0.008176,-0.00812,0.001357,0.001193,-0.005085,0.000887,0.003645,-0.007629,-0.002246,0.003462,-0.005423,0.006145,-0.003832
Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany98,0.119514,0.155376,0.015462,-0.018411,0.028621,-0.002789,-0.002115,-0.003923,0.009408,0.028976,-0.000974,0.009292,-0.014866,-0.006468,-0.0057,-0.013259,-0.008605,0.000633,0.002891,-0.008379,-0.002371,0.003586,-0.001972,0.00735,0.000599
Italian_Tuscany:VO109,0.113823,0.145221,0.012822,-0.019057,0.029236,-0.012829,-0.002115,-0.008538,0.009613,0.023144,0.000162,0.002098,-0.00996,-0.010184,-0.008279,0.002519,0.016559,-0.000127,0.007919,-0.001376,0.000125,0.006306,0.002465,0.011327,-0.004071
Italian_Tuscany:VO59,0.124067,0.144205,0.013199,-0.014212,0.027082,-0.011713,-0.006345,-0.002077,0.007976,0.019317,-0.001624,0.003447,-0.007136,-0.007982,-0.000407,0.020551,0.018515,0.001014,0.001634,0.005878,-0.002995,0.002473,0.002588,0.012773,-0.004071
Italian_Tuscany:VO65,0.1161,0.156392,0.016216,-0.020995,0.033852,-0.008646,-0.0047,-0.003461,0.003886,0.02442,0.000487,0.001349,-0.013528,-0.006331,-0.003122,-0.001856,0.010822,0.001014,0.000251,-0.005253,-0.002246,0.000371,-0.002218,0.001325,0.001078

be careful with your references some of them can "absorb" the NA component

[Konstantinos]

Hum...even the link you posted here show NA admixture for tuscans :

It isn't real North African, it's an approximation to hit the right balance. Let's wait for more scientists to catch up to the news then.

You didn't adress the source issue I mentioned.

[Nassbean]

Ok well, if this NA is not from muslims, it´s ok.

hahah it doesn't work for everyone some simply hate us muslim or not

[Nassbean]

It isn't real North African, it's an approximation to hit the right balance. Let's wait for more scientists to catch up to the news then.

You didn't adress the source issue I mentioned.

sure it's not real NA ..meanwhile they have the famous south italian samples you asked for.

And which source issue ?

[Adamm]

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Italian_Tuscany:NA20502,0.120652,0.149283,0.010559,-0.020349,0.030159,-0.007251,-0.001645,0.000692,0.007567,0.018041,-0.000974,0.006744,-0.015312,-0.004266,-0.000136,-0.005701,0.007562,0.001267,0.010684,-0.003126,0.00262,0.000989,0.000739,0.001928,-0.00467
Italian_Tuscany:NA20504,0.118376,0.140143,0.013199,-0.019057,0.027082,-0.009482,0.000705,0.002538,0.007567,0.02442,-0.000162,0.006294,-0.010852,-0.006744,-0.002036,0.014187,0.014733,0.001394,-0.00264,0.009254,0.000374,0.002226,-0.007888,0.001325,0.002155
Italian_Tuscany:NA20505,0.1161,0.156392,0.01961,-0.021318,0.028621,-0.009482,0.001645,0.003231,0.003068,0.027335,0,0.003897,-0.016204,-0.006881,-0.007872,-0.005967,0.011604,0.00114,0.003142,0.002501,-0.002745,0,-0.000493,-0.003735,-0.003712
Italian_Tuscany:NA20506,0.122929,0.141159,0.012068,-0.027132,0.01508,-0.009482,0.004465,-0.003461,0.004704,0.023326,0.000974,0.009292,-0.010258,-0.004954,-0.003393,0.005834,0.004172,0.003547,0.008925,-0.002626,-0.000499,0.000989,0.000616,0.018075,-0.007185
Italian_Tuscany:NA20508,0.117238,0.148267,0.010182,-0.020349,0.02185,-0.008088,-0.00423,0.000692,0.00634,0.020228,0.001137,0.001649,-0.01115,-0.005918,0.0038,0.001458,-0.001043,-0.001647,0.002011,-0.006253,0.000374,0.001607,-0.001849,0.005784,-0.003592
Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany27,0.120652,0.155376,0.01697,-0.024871,0.025851,-0.004741,0.002585,0.000923,0.008181,0.027153,-0.007145,0.008842,-0.013677,-0.003853,-0.003529,-0.005569,0.012386,-0.003167,-0.001257,-0.003252,-0.00287,0.004204,0.001725,0.005784,0.004071
Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany38,0.114961,0.151314,0.010559,-0.020995,0.026159,-0.008925,0.003525,0.003,0.012271,0.024055,0.002436,0.004496,-0.014271,0.002615,0.00095,-0.006762,-0.01356,-0.001267,0.006034,-0.006128,0.000873,0.001607,0.001972,0.00012,0.00491
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Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany93,0.124067,0.140143,0.011314,-0.019057,0.023081,-0.016733,-0.00094,-0.002077,0.010022,0.024237,0.007145,0.004496,-0.008176,-0.00812,0.001357,0.001193,-0.005085,0.000887,0.003645,-0.007629,-0.002246,0.003462,-0.005423,0.006145,-0.003832
Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany98,0.119514,0.155376,0.015462,-0.018411,0.028621,-0.002789,-0.002115,-0.003923,0.009408,0.028976,-0.000974,0.009292,-0.014866,-0.006468,-0.0057,-0.013259,-0.008605,0.000633,0.002891,-0.008379,-0.002371,0.003586,-0.001972,0.00735,0.000599
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Italian_Tuscany:VO65,0.1161,0.156392,0.016216,-0.020995,0.033852,-0.008646,-0.0047,-0.003461,0.003886,0.02442,0.000487,0.001349,-0.013528,-0.006331,-0.003122,-0.001856,0.010822,0.001014,0.000251,-0.005253,-0.002246,0.000371,-0.002218,0.001325,0.001078

be careful with your references some of them can "absorb" the NA component

I don't see anything significant which really says "north african".

[Leto]

I don't see anything significant which really says "north african".

Can I try this model?

[Nassbean]

I don't see anything significant which really says "north african".

that's not a good model for it simply because north africans are not 100% iberomaurusian but simply 30%

[Avgvstvs]

"suspect" "nonsense" maybe if you don't know history but the study clearly shows that this NA influx happened during the fall of the roman empire at the same time when vandals invaded and devastated coastal north africa which forced many north africans to flee to italy. I don't see what's weird here

Never read about that...and supposing it happened? How much do you think it has affected? 1%? Less? Slightly more? Negligible.



Inviato dal mio SM-A405FN utilizzando Tapatalk

[gixajo]

hahah it doesn't work for everyone some simply hate us muslim or not

The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.