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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    No - they were fools and traitors and people aren't idiots aren't: they know a traitor when they see one..
    A "Traitor"...



    Gerardus Mooyman from Apeldoorn in Netherlands was 19 years old when he volunteered for service in the Waffen-SS. Like many other Germanic volunteers, he started his career in SS-Freiwilligen-Standarte Nordwest, a unit consisted of volunteers from Flanders, Netherlands and other Germanic countries. After completing training for SS-Panzerjäger, he transferred to the Dutch SS-Freiwilligen-Legion-Niederlande, redesignated 4.SS-Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier-Brigade Nederland in October 1943. During the Soviet offensive in the Leningrad sector in January 1943, the then SS-Sturmmann Mooyman, knocked out four T-34s and blocked a local Soviet advance. Shortly thereafter he was promoted to SS-Rottenführer. Another Soviet offensive came one morning in February 1943, during which Mooyman annihilated another seven T-34s. During this engagement his SS-Geschützführer was killed, requiring Mooyman to perform his duties as well. That very afternoon came another attack during which Mooyman's skill continued, allowing him to score another six Soviet tanks.

    For his contribution to halting the Soviet offensive, Gerardes Mooyman became the first first non-German to be awarded the Knight's Cross (February 20 1943). By the end of his service on the front he was credited with destroying 23 Soviet tanks and rose to the rank of SS-Untersturmführer. He was arrested after the war ended at Bodegraven in March 1946, put on trial in 1947 and charged with active military collaboration for his service in the Waffen-SS. The Knight's Cross holder Mooyman was sentenced to 6 years in prison. Gerardus Mooyman died aged 63 in a car accident in Anloo in Drenthe on 21 June 1987.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHDNM View Post
    A "Traitor"...



    Gerardus Mooyman from Apeldoorn in Netherlands was 19 years old when he volunteered for service in the Waffen-SS. Like many other Germanic volunteers, he started his career in SS-Freiwilligen-Standarte Nordwest, a unit consisted of volunteers from Flanders, Netherlands and other Germanic countries. After completing training for SS-Panzerjäger, he transferred to the Dutch SS-Freiwilligen-Legion-Niederlande, redesignated 4.SS-Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier-Brigade Nederland in October 1943. During the Soviet offensive in the Leningrad sector in January 1943, the then SS-Sturmmann Mooyman, knocked out four T-34s and blocked a local Soviet advance. Shortly thereafter he was promoted to SS-Rottenführer. Another Soviet offensive came one morning in February 1943, during which Mooyman annihilated another seven T-34s. During this engagement his SS-Geschützführer was killed, requiring Mooyman to perform his duties as well. That very afternoon came another attack during which Mooyman's skill continued, allowing him to score another six Soviet tanks.

    For his contribution to halting the Soviet offensive, Gerardes Mooyman became the first first non-German to be awarded the Knight's Cross (February 20 1943). By the end of his service on the front he was credited with destroying 23 Soviet tanks and rose to the rank of SS-Untersturmführer. He was arrested after the war ended at Bodegraven in March 1946, put on trial in 1947 and charged with active military collaboration for his service in the Waffen-SS. The Knight's Cross holder Mooyman was sentenced to 6 years in prison. Gerardus Mooyman died aged 63 in a car accident in Anloo in Drenthe on 21 June 1987.

    Yes, a traitor because you deliberately refuse to underline this part:

    He was arrested after the war ended at Bodegraven in March 1946, put on trial in 1947 and charged with active military collaboration for his service in the Waffen-SS. The Knight's Cross holder Mooyman was sentenced to 6 years in prison.

    He was lucky. He deserved the firing squad. If you fight for the enemy and the occupier, no matter what your supposed "reasons" are, you're a traitor. For a Dutch a patriot there would only have been two real options: either join the Dutch resistance or try to make your way over to the UK where you would join the Dutch armed forces in exile.



    Wake up and smell the coffee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Yes, a traitor because you deliberately refuse to underline this part:

    He was arrested after the war ended at Bodegraven in March 1946, put on trial in 1947 and charged with active military collaboration for his service in the Waffen-SS. The Knight's Cross holder Mooyman was sentenced to 6 years in prison.

    He was lucky. He deserved the firing squad. If you fight for the enemy and the occupier, no matter what your supposed "reasons" are, you're a traitor.
    He fought in Russia against Bolshevism, in the Russian winter.

    Charged... So what?

    The "justice" of the winners...

    You are jealous of what they dared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHDNM View Post
    He fought in Russia against Bolshevism, in the Russian winter.

    Charged... So what?

    The "justice" of the winners...

    You are jealous of what they dared.

    "We Dreamed Of Something Marvellous" - Léon Degrelle

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/bNQUMDOP1sbU/
    More propaganda. It's objectively treason if you fight in the army of the occupier against the allies of your own country. And quite a few of their disgusting kind also returned home and turned the guns on their own countrymen. Literally. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Silbertanne http://www.waffen-ss.nl/silbertanne-e.php The Germans also shot innocent bystanders in reprisals for resistance actions like at the Weteringplantsoen in Amsterdam where they shot 30 resistance fighters and innocent bystanders on 12 March 1945. Or at Putten where of the 600 people who were led away, only 60 survived the war. Or at Woeste Hoeve, where they shot 116 and 147 at other locations. Or what to say about the Scholtenhuis in Groningen where the Dutch SS raped, tortured and murdered with abandon ?



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    And what did the Dutch resistance:

    What happened to Dutch collaborators?

    After the war, the leader of the collaborationist NSB, Anton Mussert, was executed. The party was outlawed as well.

    Many people accused of collaboration were lynched, and returning Dutch SS soldiers were made to clear minefields. This work killed many of them...

    Simply put, most men discovered by the Dutch resistance were beaten or shot, and women were primarily beaten or abused by the citizenry whilst having their heads shaved and receiving a permanent or near-permanent Swastika marking or brand visible on their forehead or person, some were also shot and/or killed depending on their apparent degree of collaboration.





    Members of the NSB (Dutch national socialist party) and shaven 'kraut girls' are being brought in by members of the Dutch Resistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHDNM View Post
    And what did the Dutch resistance:

    What happened to Dutch collaborators?

    After the war, the leader of the collaborationist NSB, Anton Mussert, was executed. The party was outlawed as well.

    Many people accused of collaboration were lynched, and returning Dutch SS soldiers were made to clear minefields. This work killed many of them...

    Simply put, most men discovered by the Dutch resistance were beaten or shot, and women were primarily beaten or abused by the citizenry whilst having their heads shaved and receiving a permanent or near-permanent Swastika marking or brand visible on their forehead or person, some were also shot and/or killed depending on their apparent degree of collaboration.
    Traitors deserve no better. I wish they had taken their sweet time on them rather than handing them over to a fair justice system which relied on a softie Queen (from 1948 on) to sign death sentences and often refused to do so.



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    The Dutch would call them:

    "Kanker moffen."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    The Dutch would call them:

    "Kanker moffen."

    Without the space. Like German, Dutch is a language that allows for composite words. They were moffenknechten, landverraders. The kind of people voor wie de heetste zwavelpoel in de hel nog te goed was.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PHDNM View Post
    And what did the Dutch resistance:

    What happened to Dutch collaborators?

    After the war, the leader of the collaborationist NSB, Anton Mussert, was executed. The party was outlawed as well.

    Many people accused of collaboration were lynched, and returning Dutch SS soldiers were made to clear minefields. This work killed many of them...

    Simply put, most men discovered by the Dutch resistance were beaten or shot, and women were primarily beaten or abused by the citizenry whilst having their heads shaved and receiving a permanent or near-permanent Swastika marking or brand visible on their forehead or person, some were also shot and/or killed depending on their apparent degree of collaboration.





    Members of the NSB (Dutch national socialist party) and shaven 'kraut girls' are being brought in by members of the Dutch Resistance.

    Tough shit. Treason has its price. Just like you will have to answer to your people one day, traitor boy. The Belgians and French didn't have the problem of a softie Queen who had to sign death warrants and did a better job in hanging the lot: 2940 death sentences in Belgium and 242 executions and 10.500 executions in France. That's more like it ! 154 death sentences here, 39 executions. Soft.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Without the space. Like German, Dutch is a language that allows for composite words. They were moffenknechten, landverraders. The kind of people voor wie de heetste zwavelpoel in de hel nog te goed was.
    Maar veel NSBers vochten waarschijnlijk ook met oprechte intenties tegen het bolsjewisme, veel NSBers zijn vrijwillig naar het oostfront getrokken en zijn daar ook gestorven.

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