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    Quote Originally Posted by IberianAlex View Post
    I don't know. People from Islas Canarias or Andalucía, etc, might learn the ""standard"", like Madrid dialect or whatever accent TV show presenters use if they want to seem more professional or ""refined"". There is a video on this I like:

    I'm curious about your accent ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    they don't speak English properly because of their low educational level, despite being influenced by trashy American hip hop culture.
    Yes, their knowledge of English is lower than rudimentary rap culture, but they love to brag about their "flow", their "crew", their "punchlines", et "on va se fighter" etc.

    If France is going to switch to English in the hundred years to come, the trend will start within the immigrant communities.
    I saw a couple of times in Paris dark bearded customers (Pakistanis? Afghanis? Egyptians?) trying to communicate using their poor French with Chinese shopkeepers — ultimately they all agreed to speak English. Or kind of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouistreham View Post
    Yes, their knowledge of English is lower than rudimentary rap culture, but they love to brag about their "flow", their "crew", their "punchlines", et "on va se fighter" etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0 View Post
    I'm curious about your accent ,
    Hmm, mine is basically a mix of Castilian and Canarian, suppose it comes from growing up with parents from both of those places and getting things from both. I don't speak with seseo like Canarians do, but I also cut off my S's a lot and do the aspirated S thing, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberianAlex View Post
    Hmm, mine is basically a mix of Castilian and Canarian, suppose it comes from growing up with parents from both of those places and getting things from both. I don't speak with seseo like Canarians do, but I also cut off my S's a lot and do the aspirated S thing, etc.
    And what's your accent like in English? Is there even a Miami accent as such?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    And what's your accent like in English? Is there even a Miami accent as such?
    I had the "Miami accent" a little bit when I lived there, but now I speak with a very...."neutral" accent? I almost sound like I'm from the Midwest or something, ahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberianAlex View Post
    I had the "Miami accent" a little bit when I lived there, but now I speak with a very...."neutral" accent? I almost sound like I'm from the Midwest or something, ahaha.
    How would you describe the Miami accent? From what I have heard both from actually visiting the city and watching Miamians on Youtube, they sound more East Coast than Deep South.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    How would you describe the Miami accent? From what I have heard both from actually visiting the city and watching Miamians on Youtube, they sound more East Coast than Deep South.
    Hmm, well. The accent sounds like what it is, a dialect that is the result of sustained contact between Spanish and English for half a century. There are soft vowel sounds more similar to Spanish, the Spanish "L" pronunciation is present - also like in Spanish, each syllable is the same length, whereas with a more neutral speaker the syllables will fluctuate in length, so this results in the rhythm sounding reminiscent of Spanish. Also, there is a lot of "Spanglish", and people use phrases and slang in everyday speech that are just borrowed directly from Spanish.

    Watch this video and tell me that Miami does not have an accent:


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    Quote Originally Posted by IberianAlex View Post
    Hmm, well. The accent sounds like what it is, a dialect that is the result of sustained contact between Spanish and English for half a century. There are soft vowel sounds more similar to Spanish, the Spanish "L" pronunciation is present - also like in Spanish, each syllable is the same length, whereas with a more neutral speaker the syllables will fluctuate in length, so this results in the rhythm sounding reminiscent of Spanish. Also, there is a lot of "Spanglish", and people use phrases and slang in everyday speech that are just borrowed directly from Spanish.

    Watch this video and tell me that Miami does not have an accent:

    LOL I think I have seen that video before. A bit of Spanish, a bit of AAVE (the use of 'bro' and 'shit' a lot), and a bit of East Coast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberianAlex View Post
    Hmm, mine is basically a mix of Castilian and Canarian, suppose it comes from growing up with parents from both of those places and getting things from both. I don't speak with seseo like Canarians do, but I also cut off my S's a lot and do the aspirated S thing, etc.
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