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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Well had it not been for the mass uncontrolled, unlimited Eastern European immigration, I am sure the UK would still be in the EU.
    Of course, if the EU would ceed to all the British pretensions and desires they would still in the EU. Who doesn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Well had it not been for the mass uncontrolled, unlimited Eastern European immigration, I am sure the UK would still be in the EU.
    As you know I talk with lots of Brits here in Algarve, they resent mostly eastern euro immigration, complaint about their very aggressive behaviour...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    Of course, if the EU would ceed to all the British pretensions and desires they would still in the EU. Who doesn't?
    Well I know Spain has had lots of Romanians in recent years, but still it doesn't quite add up to the same number of Poles and Lithuanians that Britain has received. When the EU massively expanded in 2004, no one came even close to estimating the numbers coming in beforehand. While I am a firm Remainer, let us not pretend that Euroscepticism is a specifically British phenomenon - if other current members were to have referenda too, the results could be quite interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    If I may be allowed to say so, people make the same error of confusing cause and effect with many Communist countries too. To see whether they achieved any success or not, you have to look at what they were like BEFORE the dictatorship in question came into power. The truth is that Eastern Europe was already behind the West long before Vladimir Lenin came along. Nor were China, Korea and Vietnam paradises of prosperity and luxury pre-1949, for that matter.
    You could even say the same with Mengistu's Ethiopia too. He was a bloody tyrant for sure, and it is clear that the 1980's famines were at least in part deliberately caused by him to kill off dissident groups in the country, but still with Cuban and Soviet support healthcare became widely-available for the first time, and in particular the literacy rate climbed from 3% to 30% within less than a decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    Because Portugal is relatively isolated and rather far from the economic core of Europe. Much like Eastern Europe.

    Portugal is also very rural compared to other Western countries (35% rural).
    this map proves that wealth gradient in Europe is not longitudinal, but radial



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Region...European_Union

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tietar View Post
    this map proves that wealth gradient in Europe is not longitudinal, but radial



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Region...European_Union
    What about Sweden and Finland? It doesn't make sense to exclude them from the circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    What about Sweden and Finland? It doesn't make sense to exclude them from the circle.
    That circle is not possible to draw in a normal satellite picture of Europe, only in a distorted map.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tietar View Post
    this map proves that wealth gradient in Europe is not longitudinal, but radial



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Region...European_Union
    Chipre in blue
    Hilarious countries like Lichtenstein in blue what does Liechtenstein produce to be the richest European country, at least when salaries coming? nothing, it is a fiscal paradise. Same than Chipre.
    Comparing different European economies to prove oneS are more developed than others is a total joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Chipre in blue
    Hilarious countries like Lichtenstein in blue what does Liechtenstein produce to be the richest European country, at least when salaries coming? nothing, it is a fiscal paradise. Same than Chipre.
    Comparing different European economies to prove oneS are more developed than others is a total joke.
    Liechtenstein has an strong industrial production for it's size, for example they have the biggest artificial teeth manufacturera company in the world.

    Cyprus is a pure tax heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    Liechtenstein has an strong industrial production for it's size, for example they have the biggest artificial teeth manufacturera company in the world.

    Cyprus is a pure tax heaven.
    The Netherlands is almost a tax heaven also causing the loss of hundreads of millions of euros to other countries (especially southern european ones) that have big companies with the head office there to evade taxes.

    And those assholes had the nerve to once again criticize Spain for not controlling the budget deficit under this corona crisis.

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